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*Call to order
 
*Call to order
 
*Approval of Agenda
 
*Approval of Agenda
*approval of Minutes
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* Approval of Minutes
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**Move Approval - Jane/Steve
 
*SAIF book Project Scope
 
*SAIF book Project Scope
*HDATA
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*HDATA - Defered until next week - John Koish is unavailable
*SAIF IF
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*SAIF IF for the SAIF book
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**Cecil introduced the document in Australia
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**needs comments ASAP
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**Zoran has comments he will forward -
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**Jane Curry - we all need to stop using 3 letter acronyms - it is hard to use them in various places.  We need to use conceptual, etc.  There were places where there was not enough rationale for the recommendations received.  There was no dicsussion of meta-data.
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**Cecil Lynch - What type of meta-data?
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**Jane Curry - include information about information someone externally might not have, include mapping to external data at the logical level to meet the implementable specification.
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**Cecil Lynch - I need something more complete.
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**Jane Curry - I saw the IF viewpoint , not the information management viewpoint that lives in architecture 2 space when someone is driving down the stack.
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**Cecil Lynch - I will wait for your comments.  To me the meta-data is the RIM - the framework for how you will apply things as well as data-types.  In a platform-specific model I will use those concepts in a specific application.  Since you know this now, I need some concrete ways you are thinking about meta-data.
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**Jane Curry - Comes from the semantic work of Robert Worden.  We have meta-data that describes the specifications, with which a project may be unfamiliar. e.g. column descriptor, or a 11179 data dictionary, or a physically described criteria of a valid instance.  You have to be able to interpret the difference between labels and definitions in a concept.
 
*Other business and planning for next meeting
 
*Other business and planning for next meeting
 
*Adjournment
 
*Adjournment

Revision as of 21:19, 10 February 2011

ArB Agenda/Minutes

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Agenda

  • Call to order
  • Approval of Agenda
  • Approval of Minutes
    • Move Approval - Jane/Steve
  • SAIF book Project Scope
  • HDATA - Defered until next week - John Koish is unavailable
  • SAIF IF for the SAIF book
    • Cecil introduced the document in Australia
    • needs comments ASAP
    • Zoran has comments he will forward -
    • Jane Curry - we all need to stop using 3 letter acronyms - it is hard to use them in various places. We need to use conceptual, etc. There were places where there was not enough rationale for the recommendations received. There was no dicsussion of meta-data.
    • Cecil Lynch - What type of meta-data?
    • Jane Curry - include information about information someone externally might not have, include mapping to external data at the logical level to meet the implementable specification.
    • Cecil Lynch - I need something more complete.
    • Jane Curry - I saw the IF viewpoint , not the information management viewpoint that lives in architecture 2 space when someone is driving down the stack.
    • Cecil Lynch - I will wait for your comments. To me the meta-data is the RIM - the framework for how you will apply things as well as data-types. In a platform-specific model I will use those concepts in a specific application. Since you know this now, I need some concrete ways you are thinking about meta-data.
    • Jane Curry - Comes from the semantic work of Robert Worden. We have meta-data that describes the specifications, with which a project may be unfamiliar. e.g. column descriptor, or a 11179 data dictionary, or a physically described criteria of a valid instance. You have to be able to interpret the difference between labels and definitions in a concept.
  • Other business and planning for next meeting
  • Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Telcon

Date: 20110210
Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Charlie Mead Note taker(s) Tony Julian
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
. Grieve, Grahame Kestral Computing
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
. Koisch, John Guidewire Architecture
X Loyd, Patrick Gordon point Informatics LTD.
X Lynch, Cecil ontoreason LLC
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
X Ocasio, Wendell Agilex Technologies
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Shakir, Abdul-Malik Shakir Consulting
. Guests
. Haddorff, Rick Mayo Clinic
. Laskso, Lynn HL7 Staff
X Milosevic, Zoran NEHTA
X Pech, Brian Kaiser Permanente
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes