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MON Q4
TUE Q6 (19:00-21:00)
(January 13th) THUR Q3
THUR Q4
FRI Q1 (09:00-10:30)
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#''Note: this is at the same time as the tooling presentations held by the Tooling WG. RIMBAA normally meets on Wednesday evening; that is however too much of a conflict with the networking event this time around.'' | #''Note: this is at the same time as the tooling presentations held by the Tooling WG. RIMBAA normally meets on Wednesday evening; that is however too much of a conflict with the networking event this time around.'' | ||
| + | #Dealing with "Context" of a payload | ||
| + | #*During the London UK meeting is was noted that various projects use similar approaches when it comes to dealing with the context of 'payload data'. The Canadian specs use ''subject'' and ''author'' in the ControlAct wrapper (only); Jean and Lorraine presented the fact that NCI uses v3 based services where subject and author are part of the service parameters and not the service payload, and RIMBAA has been discussing the concept of [[Context SMIRF]]s. These are all similar approaches to remove context from the actual payload. | ||
| + | #*Discussion by (amongst others): Jean D, Patrick L | ||
#Discussion of RIMBAA Issues | #Discussion of RIMBAA Issues | ||
Revision as of 15:41, 21 December 2010
Agenda for the January 2011 WGM (January 9-14) in Sydney Australia
Note: Rene is the only co-chair present at this meeting. He'll present the "HL7 version 3 implementation" tutorial on Wednesday morning, which is effectively a summary of all RIMBAA issues and best practices.
Contents
MON Q4 
- Administrative agenda items (max 30 minutes)
- Approval of the agenda for the week
- Approval of the minutes of the London meeting
- Announcements
- Planning of next meetings
- RIMBAA 201105 Agenda in Orlando FL, USA
- HL7 UK has offered to host another RIMBAA meeting, to be held in November.
- Report from the Canada Health Infoway fall partnership conference held on November 15-17 2010.
- This meeting contains presentations on RIMBAA topics, as well as a v3 implementation tutorials. Lloyd McKenzie, Lorraine Constable and Andy Stechishin will be in attendance, and they'll provide feedback to RIMBAA.
- Creation of an LDM/PDM based on the RIM (Abdul-Malik Shakir)
- Requested, yet to be confirmed
- Use of a (meta-)model registry in a RIMBAA environment
- Speaker to be found
- See slides 8 and 9 in this presentation: [1]; see slides in AMS presentation; NCI probably has work in this area as well.
TUE Q6 (19:00-21:00)
- Note: this is at the same time as the tooling presentations held by the Tooling WG. RIMBAA normally meets on Wednesday evening; that is however too much of a conflict with the networking event this time around.
- Dealing with "Context" of a payload
- During the London UK meeting is was noted that various projects use similar approaches when it comes to dealing with the context of 'payload data'. The Canadian specs use subject and author in the ControlAct wrapper (only); Jean and Lorraine presented the fact that NCI uses v3 based services where subject and author are part of the service parameters and not the service payload, and RIMBAA has been discussing the concept of Context SMIRFs. These are all similar approaches to remove context from the actual payload.
- Discussion by (amongst others): Jean D, Patrick L
- Discussion of RIMBAA Issues
(January 13th) THUR Q3
- This quarter as well as the next quarter will focus on the commonalities between OpenEHR implementation issues and RIMBAA implementation issues. (Please note that this meeting, like all HL7 meetings, is open to all interested parties - provided they registered for the Thursday of the HL7 WGM.)
- Given that OpenEHR implementations are based on a reference model, with reference model based persistence, a template/archetype based services layer, ISO datatypes, they must be facing many of the same issues as the HL7 RIMBAA implementers. Looking at a paper like [2] confirms this thinking.
- Whilst acknowledging that there are differences of opinion between members of the two organizations as to what the proper approach to clinical data modeling is: these differences are less important at the software architecture/implementation level which is the only level this WG focuses on.
- User Interface generation (see [3] and [4] on the OpenEHR Wiki, and User Interface for RIMBAA Applications on the HL7 Wiki)
- based on Archetype/DCM/Template definitions
- based on data types
- Persistence
- of Archetype/DCM/Template/SMIRF Instances
- using the reference model / RIM as a LDM
- querying subsets of data
- Archetype ADL(OpenEHR)/MIF(HL7) based MDA
THUR Q4
- Continuation of the agenda from THUR Q3
FRI Q1 (09:00-10:30)
- Wrap-up, methodology issues surfaced by RIMBAA implementations
Meeting Attendance (marked P)
| At | Name | Affiliation | Email Address |
|---|---|---|---|
| Adel Ghlamallah | CIHI, CA | aghlamallah@infoway.ca | |
| Alan Nicol | Informatics, UK | alan.nicol@informatics.co.uk | |
| Alejandro Pica | EMA, UK | alejandro.pica@ema.europa.eu | |
| Alexander Henket | E-Novation, NL | alexander.henket@enovation.nl | |
| Alex de Jong | Siemens, US | alex.dejong@siemens.com | |
| Alex Zupan | ItalTBS, IT | alex.zupan@italtbs.com | |
| Ameet Pathak | Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, US | ameet_pathak@dfci.harvard.edu | |
| Amnon Shabo | IBM, IL | shabo@il.ibm.com | |
| Andrew McIntyre | Medical Objects, AU | andrew@medical-objects.com.au | |
| Andy Stechislin | GordonPoint, CA | andy.stechishin@gmail.com | |
| Anil Luthra | Guidewire Architecture, US | aluthra@guidewirearchitecture.com | |
| Ann Wrightson | NHS Wales, UK | ann.wrightson@wales.nhs.uk | |
| Bill Friggic | Sanofi Aventis, US | william.friggic@sanofi-aventis.com | |
| Brian Pech | KP, US | brian.pech@kp.org | |
| Bruce McKinnon | JassCo, CA | bruce.mckinnon@jassco.ca | |
| Charlie McCay | Ramsey, UK | charlie@ramseysystems.com | |
| Chirag Bhatt | FEI Systems, US | chirag.bhatt@feisystems.com | |
| Chris Winters | Vocollect Healthcare Systems, Inc., US | cwinters@healthcare.vocollect.com | |
| Dave Barnet | NHS, UK | david.barnet@nhs.net | |
| David Rowed | Ocean Informatics, AU | david.rowed@oceaninformatics.com | |
| Diane Gutiw | SAIC, US | gutiwd@saic.com | |
| Duana Bender | Mohawk College, CA | duane.bender@mohawkcollege.ca | |
| Ed Larsen | Larsen Inc., US | e.laresen@ix.netcom.com | |
| Ernst de Bel | UMCN, NL | e.debel@ic.umcn.nl | |
| Ewout Kramer | Furore, NL | e.kramer@furore.com | |
| Gordon Raup | Carefacts, US | graup@carefacts.com | |
| Grahame Grieve | AU | grahameg@gmail.com | |
| Hugh Glover | BlueWave Informatics, UK | hugh_glover@bluewaveinformatics.co.uk | |
| Ilia Fortunov | Microsoft, US | iliaf@microsoft.com | |
| John Finbraaten | Marshfield Clinic, US | finbraaten.john@marshfieldclinic.org | |
| John Harvey | Iatric, US | john.harvey@iatric.com | |
| John Koisch | Guidewire Architecture, CA | jkoisch@guidewirearchitecture.com | |
| John Timm | IBM, US | johntimm@us.ibm.com | |
| John Ulmer | ??, US | johnu@clemson.edu | |
| Kai Heitmann | Heitmann Consulting, DE | hl7@kheitmann.de | |
| Kenneth Weng | CareFx, US | kweng@carefx.com | |
| Lyssa Neel | Infoway, CA | pneel@infoway.ca | |
| Lorraine Constable | CA | lorraine@constable.ca | |
| Marilyn Maguire | Fuji Med, US | marilyn.maguire@fujimed.com | |
| Mario Roy | Iatric, US | mario.roy@iatric.com | |
| Mark Bevivino | Iatric, US | markb@iatric.com | |
| Mark Shafarman | Shafarman Consulting, US | mark.shafarman@earthlink.net | |
| Mark Tucker | Regenstrief, US | mtucker@regenstrief.org | |
| Massimo Frossi | Ital TBS, IT | massimo.frossi@italtbs.com | |
| Michael van der Zel | Groningen University Hospital, and Results4Care, NL |
m.van.der.zel@ict.umcg.nl | |
| Mike Rossman | KP, US | michael.j.rossman@kp.org | |
| Muhammad Afzal | SEECS, PK | muhammad.afzal@seecs.edu.pk | |
| Paul Boyes | Guidewire Architecture, CA | pboyes@guidewirearchitecture.com | |
| Peter Hendler | KP, US | peter@hendler.net | |
| X | Rene Spronk | Ringholm, NL | rene.spronk@ringholm.com |
| Richard Kronstad | Carefacts | rkronstad@carefacts.com | |
| Rik Smithies | NHS, UK | rik@nprogram.co.uk | |
| Robert Worden | Charteris, US | robert.worden@charteris.com | |
| Sean Muir | VA, US | sean.muir@va.gov | |
| Scott Parkey | Axolotl, US | sparkey@axolotl.com | |
| Stacy Berger | COH | sberger@coh.org | |
| Steve Fine | Cerner, US | sfine@cerner.com | |
| Tessa van Stijn | Nictiz, NL | stijn@nictiz.nl | |
| Tim Dodd | CA | tim.dodd@health.gov.sk.ca | |
| Tod Ryal | Cerner, US | tryal@cerner.com | |
| Yunwei Wang | Siemens, US | yunwei.wang@siemens.com | |
| Zhijing Liu | Siemens, US | zhijing.liu@siemens.com |
