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Revision as of 14:59, 3 October 2010

ArB Minutes

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Cambridge, MA

Date: 20101003
Time: 9:00am U.S. EDT
Facilitator Ron Parker Note taker(s) Tony Julian
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Curry, Jane Health Information Strategies
X Grieve, Grahame Kestral Computing
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
X Koisch, John Guidewire Architecture
. Loyd, Patrick Gordon point Informatics LTD.
X Lynch, Cecil ontoreason LLC
X Mead, Charlie National Cancer Institute
. Nelson, Dale II4SM
X Ocasio, Wendell Agilex Technologies
X Parker, Ron CA Infoway
. Quinn, John Health Level Seven, Inc.
. Shakir, Abdul-Malik Shakir Consulting
. Guests
. Haddorff, Richard Mayo Clinic
X Hufnagel, Steve U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System
. Koehn, Marc Gordon point Informatics LTD
. Laakso, Lynn Health Level Seven International
. McGaughey, Skip .
X McKinnon, Bruce Jassco Systems
X Pech, Brian Kaiser Permanente
. Peres, Greg CA Infoway
. Robertson, Scott Kaiser Permanente
. Rospide, Eddy Albany Medical Center
. Smith, Karen HL7 Technical editor
. Thompson, Cliff OntoSolutions LLC
X VanDerZel, Michael UMCG
. Wrightson, Ann HL7 UK
Quorum Requirements Met: (yes/No)

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  • Sunday Q1
    • Call to order
    • Approval of Agenda for quarter
    • Approval of agenda for WGM
    • Approval of Minutes
    • Update from TSC (Ron/Charlie) (30-45 minutes)
    • Set direction for the week.
    • Arb Membership Criteria Review
    • SAIF Glossary Review
  • Sunday Q2
    • Call to order
    • Approval of Agenda for quarter
    • Behavioural Framework (John Koisch) ???
  • Sunday Q3
    • Call to order
    • Approval of Agenda for quarter
    • Information Framework and IFIG (Cecil Lynch)
    • Coherence ???

Supporting Documents

  1. List any/all documents to be provided at the meeting, including their URL if applicable. For a WGM, indicate if hardcopies will be supplied or attendees should print off copies themselves

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

Sunday Q1

  • Call to order
    • Called to order at 9:15am U.S. EDT.
  • Approval of Agenda for quarter
    • Approved by affirmation.
  • Approval of agenda for WGM
    • Approved by affirmation.
  • Approval of Minutes
    • Approved by affirmation.
  • Update from TSC (Ron/Charlie) (30-45 minutes)
    • Reviewed Roadmap - committe renamed to Strategic Initiatives Committee
    • Publishing facilitator will coordinate our Glossary work with Publications
    • Concern was raised that many of the HL7 leaders are consultants
    • Jane Curry agreed to be publishing facilitator
      • Discussion was held on what level the glossary should exist, as well as other HL7 content. Publishing/Tooling long term goal is to not only create a single ballot package, as well as custom view package - where all the links work.
      • We need a business process as well as a set of tools to make it real. Some people recognize the need, some do not.
      • There is a number of people who just want to get their job done, and not be concerned about the enterprise.
    • Tutorials need some form of validation
      • e.G. Security COnsiderations Cookbook is tutorial with very "Authoritative" language

MOTION: Approve Jane Curry as Publishing Facilitator: Unanimous

    • Arb to ensure the definition of what constitutes "Substantive change" is done
      • Woody suggested we delegate and include more than one other WG (MnM + ??)
      • Should include versioning/sunsetting issue as well.
      • Was a role of the old ARB.
      • Ended up clarifying rules to prevent ARB from being court of appeals for Substantive Change.
      • Original document defined substantive change as anything that breaks wire format
      • With the advent of V3 xml change in wire format was not necessarily substantive.
      • Grahame Grieve: Arb should specify a statement of value - what is substantive change at the highest level. Then create a task force to generate rules for a specific specification set.
      • John Koisch: Each specification could provide it's own substantive change rules.

Grahame's Definition: Substantive change is any change in a specification that causes changes to conformant implementations, except in as much the implementation leverages technical publication artifacts directly.

    • Replace Services with Service (change plural to singular).
      • MOTION: Change the S in SAIF to singular. Unanimous approval
    • SAIF transition from ALPHA to BETA+
      • Calvin Beebe's presentation on application of governance.
      • Suggested that we pick a probblem, apply SAIF end-to-end, and refine:
        • Governance
        • Implementation Guide
        • Methodology
      • Charlie Mead will discuss experience at NCI with TSC - around four/five points:
  1. Value propositon
  2. Have a clearly defined scope to apply SAIF
  3. Come to terms with defining artifacts and meta-data
  4. Governance must recognize that you cant govern everything - look at the life cycle, and the risk of not governing certain aspects.
  5. There must be a notion of change management recognition.
      • We need an architecture informed by SAIF
      • What are the working elements of SAIF that apply regardless of messaging, documents, and service metaphors and determine how to govern "that"
    • Set direction for the week.
    • Arb Membership Criteria Review
    • SAIF Glossary Review

Sunday Q2

    • Call to order
    • Approval of Agenda for quarter
    • Information Framework and IFIG (Cecil Lynch)

Sunday Q3

    • Call to order
    • Approval of Agenda for quarter
    • Behavioural Framework (John Koisch) ???
    • Coherence ???
  • Adjourned <hh:mm am/pm> <timezone>.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date)
  • .
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • .

Tony Julian 03:17, 3 October 2010 (UTC)