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==Ballot reconciliation==
 
==Ballot reconciliation==
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The ballot comments on comments 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 en 27 have been discussed in a previous conference call, but could not approved due to lack of quorum. In this session we do have a quorum and therefore a motion was moved by Larry to approve the dispositions of these comment lines. IT seconded by Jay. Votes: 2 approve, 0 against, 2 abstain.  
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The ballot comments on comments 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 en 27 have been discussed in a previous conference call, but could not approved due to lack of quorum. In this session we do have a quorum and therefore a motion was moved by Larry to approve the dispositions of these comment lines. IT seconded by Jay.  
  
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'''Votes: 2 approve, 0 against, 2 abstain.'''
  
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A copy of the ballot reconciliation spreadsheet can be found here    [[File:Total Reconciliationspreadsheet.xlsx]]
  
 
==Review of January 2015 diagram==
 
==Review of January 2015 diagram==
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*the model which was developed in San Antonio was explained:
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*We discussed the model which was developed in San Antonio:
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** the health concern component was replaced by health concern event.
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** A problem or an allergy is not automatically a concern to a care provider or patient. This very much depends on the specialization and interest of the concerned person. An example is an anorexia patient that does not regard her weight as a problem, but care provider and family do.
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** the concern identifier was replaced by different roles such as custodian, author and concerned person.
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** an allergy has a different informational structure than a problem and an allergy list is therefore different than a problem list, as it is  displaying an allergen to which the patient is allergic.
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** the tracking has been removed. Instead we have concern lists on the right upper hand corner.
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** a debate aroused about the distinction between a concern list and problem or allergy list.
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** there were questions about this part of the model. We have to make a clear distinction between the actual relationship of concerns and problems (the clinical model) and the way we view them (representational model). The health concern list is clearly a representation.  
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** in Larry's view most EMR, PHR only register problems or allergies. It is the selection of these problems by a (concerned) viewer that makes it a concern to a care provider or patient.
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** Stephen questions the structure between the problem list, allergy list and the health concern list. In his view an allergy could be part of the problem list.
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** a concern list can be seen as an virtual view of a list of problems or allergies.
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** Michael will post the document of the new model in the minutes and invite Jay and Larry to discuss the model in a next call.
 
  
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The document of the model can be found here.  
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We decide to remove the health concern list. Jay will redraw the diagram and the new diagram will be discussed in the next call.
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The document of the old model can be found here.  
 
[[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:JAN2015_WGM_Agreed_Model.docx]]
 
[[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=File:JAN2015_WGM_Agreed_Model.docx]]
  
  
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A copy of the ballot reconciliation spreadsheet can be found here    [[File:ballotspreadsheet0227.xlsx]]
 
  
  
 
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Latest revision as of 08:36, 6 March 2015

Health Concern Topic

Patient Care WG

March 5, 2015

Attendees:

  • Michael Tan – Chair
  • Jay Lyle
  • Stephen Chu
  • Ken Chen
  • Larry McKnight


Participation Information Phone Number: +1 770-657-9270 Participant Passcode: 943377

Web Meeting Info www.webex.com Meeting number 239 836 807

Ballot reconciliation

The ballot comments on comments 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 en 27 have been discussed in a previous conference call, but could not approved due to lack of quorum. In this session we do have a quorum and therefore a motion was moved by Larry to approve the dispositions of these comment lines. IT seconded by Jay.

Votes: 2 approve, 0 against, 2 abstain.

A copy of the ballot reconciliation spreadsheet can be found here File:Total Reconciliationspreadsheet.xlsx

Review of January 2015 diagram

  • We discussed the model which was developed in San Antonio:
    • A problem or an allergy is not automatically a concern to a care provider or patient. This very much depends on the specialization and interest of the concerned person. An example is an anorexia patient that does not regard her weight as a problem, but care provider and family do.
    • an allergy has a different informational structure than a problem and an allergy list is therefore different than a problem list, as it is displaying an allergen to which the patient is allergic.
    • a debate aroused about the distinction between a concern list and problem or allergy list.
    • in Larry's view most EMR, PHR only register problems or allergies. It is the selection of these problems by a (concerned) viewer that makes it a concern to a care provider or patient.
    • a concern list can be seen as an virtual view of a list of problems or allergies.

We decide to remove the health concern list. Jay will redraw the diagram and the new diagram will be discussed in the next call.

The document of the old model can be found here. [[1]]



Go back to health concern minutes: [[2]]

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