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* Update on Tooling Documentation [Wilfred]
 
* Update on Tooling Documentation [Wilfred]
 
* Update on V3 Generator Tool [Lloyd]
 
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*[[Tooling_WGM_2012_Jan]] WGM Agenda review /planning
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**Strategic Plan (3 year plan)
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**SWOT analysis
 
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Congratulations offered to Tim on his baby girl
  
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* Roll Call & Agenda Review
#Adjourned <hh:mm am/pm> <timezone>.
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* Approval of previous minutes from [[2011-12-22 Tooling Call]] move by Andy second Wilfred; unanimously approved.
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* Review of [[HL7 Tooling Government Challenge]]
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** Jane comments that she received clarification on the Tooling challenge that the HL7 Board intended for HL7 to host its own Tooling Challenge, and directed us to the Government challenge site for an example, rather than to encourage Tooling WG to prepare a submission. We'll need to rename the page.
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**Three requests for input yielded no results.
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**Woody notes that he already worked on a viewer that can browse models in MIF216. He will do a more thorough presentation at a Tooling session in San Antonio. It uses Eclipse modeling framework. It's pretty slow currently as it has editing capabilities but it becomes browser-ready for MIF instances. It only took two days, so someone with more Java expertise could prepare one readily. Tim notes that the SMD has a function similar to this. Woody believes the SMD cannot do the diagrammatic models. Further discussion ensued on comparative functions.
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**lack of participation with the Challenge is critically important as a reflection of participation in general. Addressing this on the SWOT update is important to note this trend. With the small size of the core team, many of those in Tooling that would administer such a challenge have a conflict of interest in their likelihood to submit entries for the challenge. Woody notes that the tool meisters are consumed with day job responsibilities and so day job-focused tools might be a target area. We need to focus on the burning needs, XMI to MIF transform, areas in the MAX project where tools that can consume products from other tools. XMI and model interchange is an industry problem not just HL7. XMI to MIF conversion we have but not the reverse notes Woody. John adds he has noted to the Board that the volunteer availability has declined and Finance Committee is considering funding. Our experienced tool builders are in high demand for contracts with ONC, NHS, NeHTA, etc. Woody adds there is little opportunity for the fun of playing in a new space rather than fixing old stuff. EMF is one area of exploration. We need to create models that move through tools. Jane notes a concern with MAX is that teleconferences have not reached quorum since the last WGM. This is of concern since exchanging models between tools exists even within the same tool. We're not getting interaction on the existing tooling issues. Woody asks if MDHT recognizes the issues we're talking about. John reports the GUI never got done and the VA seems to have lost interest. Jane proposes we start over again, announcing an HL7 Tooling Challenge at the WGM, where the end-stage problem is of focus, to be used through the MAX project and its use cases. We need to announce the contest and describe the process (outside of the Christmas season to encourage participation) at the WGM. We can describe Woody's work with EMF, existing tools out there that solve parts of the problem. Woody has a UML profile for MIF models missing datatypes representation but it needs review. Jane notes one of the RIMBAA WG's burning needs was a datatypes library and their variants with computable representation.
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**Same participation problem with Tooling is in Templates with CIMI involvement.
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*John asks Jane for a brief update for the Tooling Board Liaison report by end-of-day. She reiterates that most of what the Tooling WG has accomplished is due to Woody. Woody sent a report with December's invoice he can reference. He'll email John a Word copy as well, though Jane will have abstracted it better than Woody would.
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*[[Tooling_WGM_2012_Jan]] WGM Agenda review /planning
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**Jane will be unavailable next week.
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**Andy added Woody to Tuesday Q2
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**Lorraine is coordinating with Ken to find a quarter to meet with us if Thursday Q1 doesn't work.
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**Priorities for development budget for Thursday Q2. Tactical plan, strategic plan, and development plan, as well as SWOT analysis Thursday Q2. Need concrete measures for our participation by toolsmiths as well as requirements description and tool testers.
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**Tuesday tooling is dedicated to FHIR and Andy is still trying to gain Rene's participation as emcee.
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*Wilfred has no outstanding Tooling documentation tasks.
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*Jane heard from Lloyd as a sidebar yesterday that V3 Generator will now not be expected until summer. Woody asks if there's an interim deliverable that can be identified where it works for some even if not all requirements. May need to be a conversation with Andy, Lloyd and Jean. Woody will pursue this as a private conversation.
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*Jane notes that the HEART project will have a press release prior to the WGM.
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Tooling Meeting Template

Meeting Information

HL7 Tooling Meeting Agenda/Minutes

Location: Phone: +1 770-657-9270;
Participant PassCode:586935#
GoToMeeting URL:
https://www1.gotomeeting.com/join/699884034

Date: 2012-01-05
Time: 10:00 am EDT
Facilitator: Jane Curry Note taker(s): Lynn Laakso
Attendee Name, Affiliation
. .
x Woody Beeler, Beeler Consulting
x Wilfred Bonney, HL7 HQ
x Jane Curry, Co-Chair
x Tim Ireland, Co-chair
x Lynn Laakso, HL7 HQ Tooling Support
x John Quinn, HL7 CTO
x Andy Stechishin, Co-chair
Quorum Requirements Met (co-chair plus 3 counting staff): yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  • Roll Call & Agenda Review
  • Approval of previous minutes from 2011-12-22 Tooling Call
  • Review action items -
  • Update on Tooling Documentation [Wilfred]
  • Update on V3 Generator Tool [Lloyd]
  • Tooling_WGM_2012_Jan WGM Agenda review /planning
    • Strategic Plan (3 year plan)
    • SWOT analysis
  • Review projects:
    • PI# 804 GForge alternative assessment
    • PI# 801 Tooling Strategy and Process Revision
    • PI# 803 Tooling DashBoard
    • PI# 802 Tooling Communication Plan and Execution
    • PI# 752 Publish CDA IGs from Tooling (Tooling co-sponsor)
    • PI# 742 Model Automated Exchange (MAX) for UML Models
    • PI# 690 HL7 Static Model Designer Enhancement 1 - ??
    • PI# 665 MIF based Publishing Phase II
    • PI# 611 Template Registry Pilot (Tooling co-sponsor)
  • Other/New Business



Supporting Documents

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
Congratulations offered to Tim on his baby girl

  • Roll Call & Agenda Review
  • Approval of previous minutes from 2011-12-22 Tooling Call move by Andy second Wilfred; unanimously approved.
  • Review of HL7 Tooling Government Challenge
    • Jane comments that she received clarification on the Tooling challenge that the HL7 Board intended for HL7 to host its own Tooling Challenge, and directed us to the Government challenge site for an example, rather than to encourage Tooling WG to prepare a submission. We'll need to rename the page.
    • Three requests for input yielded no results.
    • Woody notes that he already worked on a viewer that can browse models in MIF216. He will do a more thorough presentation at a Tooling session in San Antonio. It uses Eclipse modeling framework. It's pretty slow currently as it has editing capabilities but it becomes browser-ready for MIF instances. It only took two days, so someone with more Java expertise could prepare one readily. Tim notes that the SMD has a function similar to this. Woody believes the SMD cannot do the diagrammatic models. Further discussion ensued on comparative functions.
    • lack of participation with the Challenge is critically important as a reflection of participation in general. Addressing this on the SWOT update is important to note this trend. With the small size of the core team, many of those in Tooling that would administer such a challenge have a conflict of interest in their likelihood to submit entries for the challenge. Woody notes that the tool meisters are consumed with day job responsibilities and so day job-focused tools might be a target area. We need to focus on the burning needs, XMI to MIF transform, areas in the MAX project where tools that can consume products from other tools. XMI and model interchange is an industry problem not just HL7. XMI to MIF conversion we have but not the reverse notes Woody. John adds he has noted to the Board that the volunteer availability has declined and Finance Committee is considering funding. Our experienced tool builders are in high demand for contracts with ONC, NHS, NeHTA, etc. Woody adds there is little opportunity for the fun of playing in a new space rather than fixing old stuff. EMF is one area of exploration. We need to create models that move through tools. Jane notes a concern with MAX is that teleconferences have not reached quorum since the last WGM. This is of concern since exchanging models between tools exists even within the same tool. We're not getting interaction on the existing tooling issues. Woody asks if MDHT recognizes the issues we're talking about. John reports the GUI never got done and the VA seems to have lost interest. Jane proposes we start over again, announcing an HL7 Tooling Challenge at the WGM, where the end-stage problem is of focus, to be used through the MAX project and its use cases. We need to announce the contest and describe the process (outside of the Christmas season to encourage participation) at the WGM. We can describe Woody's work with EMF, existing tools out there that solve parts of the problem. Woody has a UML profile for MIF models missing datatypes representation but it needs review. Jane notes one of the RIMBAA WG's burning needs was a datatypes library and their variants with computable representation.
    • Same participation problem with Tooling is in Templates with CIMI involvement.
  • John asks Jane for a brief update for the Tooling Board Liaison report by end-of-day. She reiterates that most of what the Tooling WG has accomplished is due to Woody. Woody sent a report with December's invoice he can reference. He'll email John a Word copy as well, though Jane will have abstracted it better than Woody would.
  • Tooling_WGM_2012_Jan WGM Agenda review /planning
    • Jane will be unavailable next week.
    • Andy added Woody to Tuesday Q2
    • Lorraine is coordinating with Ken to find a quarter to meet with us if Thursday Q1 doesn't work.
    • Priorities for development budget for Thursday Q2. Tactical plan, strategic plan, and development plan, as well as SWOT analysis Thursday Q2. Need concrete measures for our participation by toolsmiths as well as requirements description and tool testers.
    • Tuesday tooling is dedicated to FHIR and Andy is still trying to gain Rene's participation as emcee.
  • Wilfred has no outstanding Tooling documentation tasks.
  • Jane heard from Lloyd as a sidebar yesterday that V3 Generator will now not be expected until summer. Woody asks if there's an interim deliverable that can be identified where it works for some even if not all requirements. May need to be a conversation with Andy, Lloyd and Jean. Woody will pursue this as a private conversation.
  • Projects: Tooling communication plan not up to speed; tooling strategy has been presented but not process revision. Eclipse architect looking to participate at WGM can only meet on the prior weekend but Jane and Woody have prior commitments. A virtual meeting may be scheduled.
  • Jane notes that the HEART project will have a press release prior to the WGM.
  1. Adjourned 11:02 AM EST.


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