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=Attendees=
 
=Attendees=
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* Scott Robertson (Scribe)
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* Scott Robertson (Chair)
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* John Hatem (Chair)
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* John Hatem
 
* Jean Duteau
 
* Jean Duteau
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* Melva Peters
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* Melva Peters (Scribe)
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*
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* Tim McNeil
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* Stefan (Chile)
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* Francisco (Chile)
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* Stephen Chu
  
 
=Agenda Items and notes=
 
=Agenda Items and notes=
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== US Meds - PDMP Mapping==
 
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<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:800px;" data-expandtext="Expand for notes" data-collapsetext="Collapse">
 
  
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* [https://hl7.github.io/FHIR-ONC-Meds/ work on GitHub]
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==Action Item List==
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* added banners for those sections of the material that is open for ballot
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WGM - Scott to update availability
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* New tab has been added for PDMP
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**Brett will send out a link with updated material by end of day on Wednesday - Pharmacy WG will comment
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15136 - Change Dosage to support conditional doses
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** rename "Request" column to PDMP data attribute
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  Action: Scott to pull material from NCPDP
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** suggest more clarifying information on the scope and context
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  Action: John to pull V3 material
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** Motion to approve this content going to ballot pending one final review of content by Wednesday end of day - Melva/John - 6/0/0 - CARRIED
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* Updates were provided and feedback was given to Brett M.  Feedback was incorporated into published material.
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15589 - Pharmacy missing isModifierReason
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* 4/9/2018 - previously discussed, some updates by Brett, approved for ballot.  Can close this.
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  Action: Jean to talk to Grahame/Lloyd - about the criteria for when is an element flagged as a Modifier
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</div>
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 +
'''MedicationKnowledge'''
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Action: Jean and Melva to liase to work on updates
 +
Action:  look at material from Chile to see if definitions can be updated
 +
Action: Melva to post to Zulip asking implementers for feedback - done
 +
Action:  Melva to add MedicationKnowlege to FHIR Tracker so that new comments/changes can be added
 +
 
 +
==WGM Agenda==
 +
[[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=May_2018_Pharmacy_WGM_Agenda WGM Agenda on Wiki]]
 +
* Scott and Melva will be attending
 +
* Jean and John will be able to dial in for MedicationKnowledge discussion
 +
Action:  Scott to update availability
 +
 
 +
==Joint Meeting with IHE Pharmacy and ISO TC215 WG 6==
 +
* Feb 26, 2018: no discussion
 +
* March 5, 2018: no decision
 +
* March 12, 2018: will decline a joint meeting for Cologne
 +
** will commit to provide an update to IHE Pharmacy and ISO as a power point, but can not do a F2F meeting at this time.
 +
* March 19, 2018: Looks like there will be a joint meeting on Friday, May 18th
 +
* March 26, 2018: Scott sent possible agenda topics
 +
* April 9, 2018: Update with current status - who is attending, any further updates to agenda, etc.
 +
** Melva and Scott will be attending
 +
** initial agenda items sent to IHE and TC215 WG6
 +
* April 16, 2018:
 +
** no further information on agenda item
  
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'''On ballot - no discussion until after ballot close (WGM?)'''
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==MedicationKnowledge Resource==
 +
* Melva and Jean are creating a draft resource in the build.  The next step is to review the existing tracker items to see which can be done with the current draft content, which need to have data elements added, and which will remain out of scope.
 +
* Feb 26, 2018: no discussion
 +
* March 5, 2018:  no discussion
 +
* March 12, 2018: FMG wants to see the PSS once co-sponsors have been approved
 +
* March 19, 2018: Melva will see if she can publish a local version for review
 +
* March 26, 2018:no discussion
 +
* April 9, 2018: update by Jean
 +
** reviewed structure at [http://build.fhir.org/medicationknowledge.html]
 +
** a first cut ... '''more work to be done'''
 +
** mainly pulled from v3. 
 +
** some review relative to Saskatchewan, KP formularies and FDB
 +
** still need to validate will work for use cases / requirements
 +
** medicationClassification can be used for many different different classification for one MedicationKnowledge
 +
** batch ... is this needed in MedicationKnowledge?
 +
** Note that this is not as detailed as IDMP
 +
** amount vs packaging.quantity ... need to clarify
 +
** 'type' needs clarity: this is branded, generic, PHPID, etc.  need better definition.
 +
** need input from Medication Knowledge vendors (Multum, FDB, etc), formulary, catalog stakeholders
 +
* April 16, 2018:
 +
**Jean's email of April 13, 2018 -- This is a list of the changes/clarifications/discussion items that came out of the review of the MedicationKnowledge resource:
 +
***generalizedMedicine = Reference(MedKnowledge)
 +
***patientCharacteristics.value = choice of datatypes
 +
***indication = reference(observation)
 +
***drugCharacteristics.value = choice of datatypes
 +
*** .
 +
***type - needs better definition
 +
***ingredientItem - reference(medication)? - do we need a reference to medication or just to substance?
 +
***Contraindications - do we want to include a structure for contraIndications?
 +
***batch - description isn't proper - is it needed?
 +
***packaging.quantity = how does it differ from amount?
 +
****how do I express strength + total quantity
 +
***halfLife - description needs to be fixed
 +
***Cost - add a typeCode for type of cost (manufacturer price, claim reimbursement, patient cost)
 +
*** fix graphic on UML
 +
*** isBrand - may be needs to include different types - isBrand, isGeneric, isInnovator, other
 +
**** Discussion
 +
*** add substitution allowed attribute
 +
*** Need to look at other parameters other than halfLife
 +
*** Need to consider the name
 +
Action: Jean and Melva to liase to work on updates
 +
Action:  look at material from Chile to see if definitions can be updated
 +
Action: Melva to post to Zulip asking implementers for feedback
  
 
==FHIR==
 
==FHIR==
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[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=677&querynav=%2Fgf%2Fproject%2Ffhir%2Ftracker%2F%3Faction%3DTrackerItemBrowse%26tracker_id%3D677%26forget_query%3D1&quickquery=1&tracker_item_id=&summary=&submitted_by=&priority=&assigned_to=&extra_field%5B4214%5D=&extra_field%5B4215%5D=&extra_field%5B4060%5D=&extra_field%5B3631%5D=&extra_field%5B3807%5D=&extra_field%5B3808%5D=&extra_field%5B3628%5D=13117&extra_field%5B3626%5D=&extra_field%5B4065%5D=&extra_field%5B4092%5D=&extra_field%5B4063%5D=&extra_field%5B4062%5D=&extra_field%5B2415%5D=-3&extra_field%5B4252%5D=&extra_field%5B3633%5D=&extra_field%5B3969%5D=&extra_field%5B4069%5D=&extra_field%5B4066%5D=&extra_field%5B4071%5D=&extra_field%5B3632%5D=&sortcol=tracker_item_id&sortord=ASC Link to Open Pharmacy FHIR Tracker Items]
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[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemBrowse&tracker_id=677&querynav=%2Fgf%2Fproject%2Ffhir%2Ftracker%2F%3Faction%3DTrackerItemBrowse%26tracker_id%3D677%26forget_query%3D1&quickquery=1&tracker_item_id=&summary=&submitted_by=&priority=&assigned_to=&extra_field%5B4214%5D=&extra_field%5B4215%5D=&extra_field%5B4060%5D=&extra_field%5B3631%5D=&extra_field%5B3807%5D=&extra_field%5B3808%5D=&extra_field%5B3628%5D=13117&extra_field%5B3626%5D=&extra_field%5B4065%5D=&extra_field%5B4092%5D=&extra_field%5B4063%5D=&extra_field%5B4062%5D=&extra_field%5B2415%5D=-3&extra_field%5B4252%5D=&extra_field%5B3633%5D=&extra_field%5B3969%5D=&extra_field%5B4069%5D=&extra_field%5B4066%5D=&extra_field%5B4071%5D=&extra_field%5B3632%5D=&sortcol=tracker_item_id&sortord=ASC Open Pharmacy FHIR Tracker Items]
  
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===15905 [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15905 need comment for Dosage.doseAndRate]===
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===15905 - Comment for Dosage.doseAndRate===
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** 4/9/2018 - Christof asked to review 14212 for completion
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* [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15905 need comment for Dosage.doseAndRate]
 +
* April 9, 2018 - Christof asked to review 14212 for completion
 
** was the value set binding done? dose-and-rate-type is present:  calculated, ordered
 
** was the value set binding done? dose-and-rate-type is present:  calculated, ordered
 
** everything is done and applied!
 
** everything is done and applied!
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** Stephen asked if the multiple iterations might conflict?  is there a mechanism to prevent such conflicts?
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* Stephen asked if the multiple iterations might conflict?  is there a mechanism to prevent such conflicts?
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*** new tracker item [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15905 15905] created for a doseAndRate comment that the multiple instances of doseAndRate cannot conflict.
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** new tracker item [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15905 15905] created for a doseAndRate comment that the multiple instances of doseAndRate cannot conflict.
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* April 16, 2018: no discussion
  
 
===15105 - MedicationStatement - alignment with WorkFlow===
 
===15105 - MedicationStatement - alignment with WorkFlow===
 
** notTaken was removed
 
** notTaken was removed
 
** need to consider how to reflect what the prescriber thinks should be taken by the patient - is this a medStatement or is this a MedRequest?
 
** need to consider how to reflect what the prescriber thinks should be taken by the patient - is this a medStatement or is this a MedRequest?
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** Lloyd believes should be using a MedRequest with a "plan" status
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* Lloyd believes should be using a MedRequest with a "plan" status
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** Choices:
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* Choices:
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*** take MedStatement back to the way it was
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** take MedStatement back to the way it was
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*** US Core - embrace List
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** US Core - embrace List
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*** follow Lloyd's suggestion to use MedRequest with "Plan" status
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** follow Lloyd's suggestion to use MedRequest with "Plan" status
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*** use status field to identify if a prescriber believes the patient should be on this med and uses taken element to identify if the patient is following the order and taking the medication - could previous do this before we aligned MedStatement with workflow
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** use status field to identify if a prescriber believes the patient should be on this med and uses taken element to identify if the patient is following the order and taking the medication - could previous do this before we aligned MedStatement with workflow
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** March 5, 2018:  - deferred until March 12, 2018
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* March 5, 2018:  - deferred until March 12, 2018
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*** Ask Lloyd to join call - complete - he can't join on March 12.  Need to provide an update to him
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** Ask Lloyd to join call - complete - he can't join on March 12.  Need to provide an update to him
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** March 12, 2018:
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* March 12, 2018:
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*** Lloyd believes that MedStatement should only be an indicator of whether the patient/provider says they are taking the medication
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** Lloyd believes that MedStatement should only be an indicator of whether the patient/provider says they are taking the medication
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*** Options:
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** Options:
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**** revert back to having "notTaken"(pre workflow harmonization)
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*** revert back to having "notTaken"(pre workflow harmonization)
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**** provider instructions for medication - should use MedicationRequest - with intent element
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*** provider instructions for medication - should use MedicationRequest - with intent element
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**** implement List resources to get active medication list - not preferred
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*** implement List resources to get active medication list - not preferred
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**** current resource with "not taken" as a status - not preferred
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*** current resource with "not taken" as a status - not preferred
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*** Need to take this conversation more public -  
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** Need to take this conversation more public -  
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**** Workflow group - Melva to ask Lloyd to add to Workflow agenda
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*** Workflow group - Melva to ask Lloyd to add to Workflow agenda
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**** Zulip - posting to Zulip
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*** Zulip - posting to Zulip
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***** add Workflow discussion
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**** add Workflow discussion
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* April 16, 2018: no discussion
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===15688 - [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15688&start=0 MedicationRequest.category Valueset]===
 
  
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===14455 - Workflow report - [[File:workflow pharmacy issues Jan 2018.xlsx]]===
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===15688 - MedicationRequest.category ValueSet===
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<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:800px;" data-expandtext="Expand for notes" data-collapsetext="Collapse">
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*[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15688&start=0 MedicationRequest.category Valueset]
 +
* April 9, 2018: added to tracker
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* April 16, 2018: no discussion
  
 +
===14455 - Workflow report===
 +
* [[File:workflow pharmacy issues Jan 2018.xlsx]]x
 
** new report has been run
 
** new report has been run
 
** MedicationRequest
 
** MedicationRequest
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**** will add to suppressed-workflow-warnings - different name
 
**** will add to suppressed-workflow-warnings - different name
 
**** John to followup with workflow about the reference to DetectedIssue - still outstanding
 
**** John to followup with workflow about the reference to DetectedIssue - still outstanding
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*
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* April 16, 2018: (is there a new report?) - no discussion
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</div>
 
  
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===15136 -  [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15136&start=0 Change Dosage to support conditional doses]===
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===15136 -  Change Dosage to support conditional doses===
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**Discussion of the requirement - this is related to conditional dose
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* [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15136&start=0 Change Dosage to support conditional doses]
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** Scott to pull material from NCPDP
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*Discussion of the requirement - this is related to conditional dose
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** John to pull V3 material
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*start to gather requirements and look at existing FHIR material including CDS
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** start to gather requirements and look at existing FHIR material including CDS
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Action: Scott to pull material from NCPDP
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** 4/9/18 - minor update, more work needed
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Action: John to pull V3 material
 +
* April 9, 2018: minor update, more work needed
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* April 16, 2018: no discussion
  
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===15589 - [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15589&start=0 Pharmacy missing isModifierReason]===
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===15589 - Pharmacy missing isModifier Reason===
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** MedicationRequest.substitution.allowed
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*[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15589&start=0 Pharmacy missing isModifierReason]
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*** do not believe that this should be a "isModifier"
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* MedicationRequest.substitution.allowed
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*** will discuss on March 12 call when we have implementers on the call
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** do not believe that this should be a "isModifier"
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** Medication.amount
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** will discuss on March 12 call when we have implementers on the call
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*** do not believe that this should be a "isModifier"
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* Medication.amount
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*** will discuss on March 12 call when we have implementers on the call
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** do not believe that this should be a "isModifier"
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** March 19, 2018:
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** will discuss on March 12 call when we have implementers on the call
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*** discussion of the purpose of the isModifier flag - discussion of whether there should be isModifier used more often than it is
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* March 19, 2018:
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*** medicationRequest.substitution - will use the wording from the current element and elaborate "this is the element that must be understood from the substitution element.  In the substitution block - this is the element that must be understood to understand the meaning of the block
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** discussion of the purpose of the isModifier flag - discussion of whether there should be isModifier used more often than it is
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***medication.amount - agree it is a Modifier
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** medicationRequest.substitution - will use the wording from the current element and elaborate "this is the element that must be understood from the substitution element.  In the substitution block - this is the element that must be understood to understand the meaning of the block
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**** should only specify the amount when the medication.code doesn't provide this information
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**medication.amount - agree it is a Modifier
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**** then this can not be ignored
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*** should only specify the amount when the medication.code doesn't provide this information
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** 4/9/18 - still as a modifer.  still pending input
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*** then this can not be ignored
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* April 9, 2018: still as a modifer.  still pending input
 
  Action: Jean to talk to Grahame/Lloyd - about the criteria for when is an element flagged as a Modifier
 
  Action: Jean to talk to Grahame/Lloyd - about the criteria for when is an element flagged as a Modifier
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* April 16, 2018: no discussion
  
 +
===15509 - Create example scenarios for Pharmacy===
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*[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15509&start=0 Create example scenarios for Pharmacy]
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* need to draft some scenarios
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* April 16, 2018: no discussion
  
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===15509 - [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=15509&start=0 Create example scenarios for Pharmacy]===
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===12396 - Medication package and product===
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** need to draft some scenarios
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*[https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12396&start=0 Medication package and product]
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* April 9, 2018 - brought back to discuss
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* April 16, 2018 - no discussion
  
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===12396 - [https://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12396&start=0 Medication package and product]===
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== Updates from Workflow==
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==Action Item List==
 
 
* March 26, 2018: no discussion
 
* March 26, 2018: no discussion
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* April 9, 2018: no new action items
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* April 9, 2018: workflow meeting this week focused on ballot comments.
 +
* April 16, 2018: no discussion
  
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==MedicationKnowledge Resource==
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== US Meds - PDMP Mapping==
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* Melva and Jean are creating a draft resource in the build.  The next step is to review the existing tracker items to see which can be done with the current draft content, which need to have data elements added, and which will remain out of scope.
+
* [https://hl7.github.io/FHIR-ONC-Meds/ work on GitHub]
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* Feb 26, 2018: no discussion
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* added banners for those sections of the material that is open for ballot
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* March 5, 2018:  no discussion
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* New tab has been added for PDMP
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* March 12, 2018: FMG wants to see the PSS once co-sponsors have been approved
+
**Brett will send out a link with updated material by end of day on Wednesday - Pharmacy WG will comment
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* March 19, 2018: Melva will see if she can publish a local version for review
+
** rename "Request" column to PDMP data attribute
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* March 26, 2018:no discussion
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** suggest more clarifying information on the scope and context
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* April 9, 2018: update by Jean
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** Motion to approve this content going to ballot pending one final review of content by Wednesday end of day - Melva/John - 6/0/0 - CARRIED
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** reviewed structure at [http://build.fhir.org/medicationknowledge.html]
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* Updates were provided and feedback was given to Brett M.  Feedback was incorporated into published material.
−
** a first cut ... '''more work to be done'''
+
* 4/9/2018 - previously discussed, some updates by Brett, approved for ballot.  Can close this.
−
** mainly pulled from v3. 
+
* April 16, 2018: In ballot - no discussion until after ballot close
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** some review relative to Saskatchewan, KP formularies and FDB
+
** will be on the agenda for WGM or subsequent teleconference
−
** still need to validate will work for use cases / requirements
 
−
** medicationClassification can be used for many different different classification for one MedicationKnowledge
 
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** batch ... is this needed in MedicationKnowledge?
 
−
** Note that this is not as detailed as IDMP
 
−
** amount vs packaging.quantity ... need to clarify
 
−
** 'type' needs clarity: this is branded, generic, PHPID, etc.  need better definition.
 
−
** need input from Medication Knowledge vendors (Multum, FDB, etc), formulary, catalog stakeholders
 
−
 
 
−
==Joint Meeting with IHE Pharmacy and ISO TC215 WG 6==
 
−
* Feb 26, 2018: no discussion
 
−
* March 5, 2018: no decision
 
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* March 12, 2018: will decline a joint meeting for Cologne
 
−
** will commit to provide an update to IHE Pharmacy and ISO as a power point, but can not do a F2F meeting at this time.
 
−
* March 19, 2018: Looks like there will be a joint meeting on Friday, May 18th
 
−
* March 26, 2018: Scott sent possible agenda topics
 
−
* April 9, 2018: Update with current status - who is attending, any further updates to agenda, etc.
 
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** Melva and Scott will be attending
 
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** initial agenda items sent to IHE and TC215 WG6
 
  
 
== Catalogue Project==
 
== Catalogue Project==
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* March 19, 2018: no updates
 
* March 19, 2018: no updates
 
* March 26, 2018: no discussion
 
* March 26, 2018: no discussion
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* April 9, 2018: no discussions?
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* April 9, 2018: no discussion
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== Updates from Workflow==
 
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* March 26, 2018: no discussion
 
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* April 9, 2018: workflow meeting this week focused on ballot comments. 
 
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==WGM Agenda==
 
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[[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=May_2018_Pharmacy_WGM_Agenda WGM Agenda on Wiki]]
 
  
 
==Drug Interaction PSS ==
 
==Drug Interaction PSS ==
 
* Project meetings will be held Wednesday at 9am Pacific
 
* Project meetings will be held Wednesday at 9am Pacific
 
* March 26, 2018: no discussion
 
* March 26, 2018: no discussion
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* April 16, 2018: no discussion
  
 
==AOB==
 
==AOB==
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* None
  
 
==Next meeting==
 
==Next meeting==
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* April 23, 2018:
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* April 23, 2018

Latest revision as of 21:19, 16 April 2018

Attendees

  • Scott Robertson (Chair)
  • John Hatem
  • Jean Duteau
  • Melva Peters (Scribe)
  • Tim McNeil
  • Stefan (Chile)
  • Francisco (Chile)
  • Stephen Chu

Agenda Items and notes

Action Item List

WGM - Scott to update availability

15136 - Change Dosage to support conditional doses
 Action: Scott to pull material from NCPDP
 Action: John to pull V3 material

15589 - Pharmacy missing isModifierReason
 Action: Jean to talk to Grahame/Lloyd - about the criteria for when is an element flagged as a Modifier

MedicationKnowledge
Action: Jean and Melva to liase to work on updates
Action:  look at material from Chile to see if definitions can be updated
Action: Melva to post to Zulip asking implementers for feedback - done
Action:  Melva to add MedicationKnowlege to FHIR Tracker so that new comments/changes can be added

WGM Agenda

[WGM Agenda on Wiki]

  • Scott and Melva will be attending
  • Jean and John will be able to dial in for MedicationKnowledge discussion
Action:  Scott to update availability

Joint Meeting with IHE Pharmacy and ISO TC215 WG 6

  • Feb 26, 2018: no discussion
  • March 5, 2018: no decision
  • March 12, 2018: will decline a joint meeting for Cologne
    • will commit to provide an update to IHE Pharmacy and ISO as a power point, but can not do a F2F meeting at this time.
  • March 19, 2018: Looks like there will be a joint meeting on Friday, May 18th
  • March 26, 2018: Scott sent possible agenda topics
  • April 9, 2018: Update with current status - who is attending, any further updates to agenda, etc.
    • Melva and Scott will be attending
    • initial agenda items sent to IHE and TC215 WG6
  • April 16, 2018:
    • no further information on agenda item

MedicationKnowledge Resource

  • Melva and Jean are creating a draft resource in the build. The next step is to review the existing tracker items to see which can be done with the current draft content, which need to have data elements added, and which will remain out of scope.
  • Feb 26, 2018: no discussion
  • March 5, 2018: no discussion
  • March 12, 2018: FMG wants to see the PSS once co-sponsors have been approved
  • March 19, 2018: Melva will see if she can publish a local version for review
  • March 26, 2018:no discussion
  • April 9, 2018: update by Jean
    • reviewed structure at [1]
    • a first cut ... more work to be done
    • mainly pulled from v3.
    • some review relative to Saskatchewan, KP formularies and FDB
    • still need to validate will work for use cases / requirements
    • medicationClassification can be used for many different different classification for one MedicationKnowledge
    • batch ... is this needed in MedicationKnowledge?
    • Note that this is not as detailed as IDMP
    • amount vs packaging.quantity ... need to clarify
    • 'type' needs clarity: this is branded, generic, PHPID, etc. need better definition.
    • need input from Medication Knowledge vendors (Multum, FDB, etc), formulary, catalog stakeholders
  • April 16, 2018:
    • Jean's email of April 13, 2018 -- This is a list of the changes/clarifications/discussion items that came out of the review of the MedicationKnowledge resource:
      • generalizedMedicine = Reference(MedKnowledge)
      • patientCharacteristics.value = choice of datatypes
      • indication = reference(observation)
      • drugCharacteristics.value = choice of datatypes
      • .
      • type - needs better definition
      • ingredientItem - reference(medication)? - do we need a reference to medication or just to substance?
      • Contraindications - do we want to include a structure for contraIndications?
      • batch - description isn't proper - is it needed?
      • packaging.quantity = how does it differ from amount?
        • how do I express strength + total quantity
      • halfLife - description needs to be fixed
      • Cost - add a typeCode for type of cost (manufacturer price, claim reimbursement, patient cost)
      • fix graphic on UML
      • isBrand - may be needs to include different types - isBrand, isGeneric, isInnovator, other
        • Discussion
      • add substitution allowed attribute
      • Need to look at other parameters other than halfLife
      • Need to consider the name
Action: Jean and Melva to liase to work on updates
Action:  look at material from Chile to see if definitions can be updated
Action: Melva to post to Zulip asking implementers for feedback

FHIR

Open Pharmacy FHIR Tracker Items

15905 - Comment for Dosage.doseAndRate

  • need comment for Dosage.doseAndRate
  • April 9, 2018 - Christof asked to review 14212 for completion
    • was the value set binding done? dose-and-rate-type is present: calculated, ordered
    • everything is done and applied!
  • Stephen asked if the multiple iterations might conflict? is there a mechanism to prevent such conflicts?
    • new tracker item 15905 created for a doseAndRate comment that the multiple instances of doseAndRate cannot conflict.
  • April 16, 2018: no discussion

15105 - MedicationStatement - alignment with WorkFlow

    • notTaken was removed
    • need to consider how to reflect what the prescriber thinks should be taken by the patient - is this a medStatement or is this a MedRequest?
  • Lloyd believes should be using a MedRequest with a "plan" status
  • Choices:
    • take MedStatement back to the way it was
    • US Core - embrace List
    • follow Lloyd's suggestion to use MedRequest with "Plan" status
    • use status field to identify if a prescriber believes the patient should be on this med and uses taken element to identify if the patient is following the order and taking the medication - could previous do this before we aligned MedStatement with workflow
  • March 5, 2018: - deferred until March 12, 2018
    • Ask Lloyd to join call - complete - he can't join on March 12. Need to provide an update to him
  • March 12, 2018:
    • Lloyd believes that MedStatement should only be an indicator of whether the patient/provider says they are taking the medication
    • Options:
      • revert back to having "notTaken"(pre workflow harmonization)
      • provider instructions for medication - should use MedicationRequest - with intent element
      • implement List resources to get active medication list - not preferred
      • current resource with "not taken" as a status - not preferred
    • Need to take this conversation more public -
      • Workflow group - Melva to ask Lloyd to add to Workflow agenda
      • Zulip - posting to Zulip
        • add Workflow discussion
  • April 16, 2018: no discussion

15688 - MedicationRequest.category ValueSet

14455 - Workflow report

  • File:Workflow pharmacy issues Jan 2018.xlsxx
    • new report has been run
    • MedicationRequest
      • instantiates - currently supported but workflow has changed the pattern
        • John to talk to Lloyd about the changes needed
    • MedicationAdministration -
      • instantiates - currently supported but workflow has changed the pattern
        • John to talk to Lloyd about the changes needed
    • MedicationDispense
      • Performer - we believe we are consistent
        • Melva to reach out to Lloyd and ask if this is an error in the report - email sent to Lloyd - there is an error on the report.
          • new report to be generated
      • statusReason
        • will add to suppressed-workflow-warnings - different name
        • John to followup with workflow about the reference to DetectedIssue - still outstanding
  • April 16, 2018: (is there a new report?) - no discussion

15136 - Change Dosage to support conditional doses

Action: Scott to pull material from NCPDP
Action: John to pull V3 material
  • April 9, 2018: minor update, more work needed
  • April 16, 2018: no discussion

15589 - Pharmacy missing isModifier Reason

  • Pharmacy missing isModifierReason
  • MedicationRequest.substitution.allowed
    • do not believe that this should be a "isModifier"
    • will discuss on March 12 call when we have implementers on the call
  • Medication.amount
    • do not believe that this should be a "isModifier"
    • will discuss on March 12 call when we have implementers on the call
  • March 19, 2018:
    • discussion of the purpose of the isModifier flag - discussion of whether there should be isModifier used more often than it is
    • medicationRequest.substitution - will use the wording from the current element and elaborate "this is the element that must be understood from the substitution element. In the substitution block - this is the element that must be understood to understand the meaning of the block
    • medication.amount - agree it is a Modifier
      • should only specify the amount when the medication.code doesn't provide this information
      • then this can not be ignored
  • April 9, 2018: still as a modifer. still pending input
Action: Jean to talk to Grahame/Lloyd - about the criteria for when is an element flagged as a Modifier
  • April 16, 2018: no discussion

15509 - Create example scenarios for Pharmacy

12396 - Medication package and product

Updates from Workflow

  • March 26, 2018: no discussion
  • April 9, 2018: workflow meeting this week focused on ballot comments.
  • April 16, 2018: no discussion

US Meds - PDMP Mapping

  • work on GitHub
  • added banners for those sections of the material that is open for ballot
  • New tab has been added for PDMP
    • Brett will send out a link with updated material by end of day on Wednesday - Pharmacy WG will comment
    • rename "Request" column to PDMP data attribute
    • suggest more clarifying information on the scope and context
    • Motion to approve this content going to ballot pending one final review of content by Wednesday end of day - Melva/John - 6/0/0 - CARRIED
  • Updates were provided and feedback was given to Brett M. Feedback was incorporated into published material.
  • 4/9/2018 - previously discussed, some updates by Brett, approved for ballot. Can close this.
  • April 16, 2018: In ballot - no discussion until after ballot close
    • will be on the agenda for WGM or subsequent teleconference

Catalogue Project

  • March 5: last weeks meeting addressed open issues related to getting the Entry Definition resource cleaned up. There were no Pharmacy specific issues.
  • March 12, 2018: there was a meeting - cleaning up material to get content into the build
    • entryDefinition has a classification element
  • March 19, 2018: no updates
  • March 26, 2018: no discussion
  • April 9, 2018: all Catalogue project meetings cancelled until after HL7 Workgroup meeting in Cologne

Blood Products/Transfusion/Tissue Update - Project 1370

  • Feb 26, 2018: no discussion
  • March 5, 2018: no updates
  • March 12, 2018: no meetings have been held since New Orleans
  • March 19, 2018: no updates
  • March 26, 2018: no discussion
  • April 9, 2018: no discussion

Drug Interaction PSS

  • Project meetings will be held Wednesday at 9am Pacific
  • March 26, 2018: no discussion
  • April 16, 2018: no discussion

AOB

  • None

Next meeting

  • April 23, 2018
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