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'''Location: ''' Pelican - Riverside Bldg.
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===Agenda & Minutes===
 
===Agenda & Minutes===
* Welcome Guests: Cynthia Canteen Harbor (CDC NHSN), Russel Ott (VA)  
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*Welcome Guest: Austin Kreisler (Note: Call was not listed on the HL7 Conference Call Calendar)
 
*Agenda review
 
*Agenda review
*Approve Minutes of [[2018-01-05_CDAMG_Conference_Call]]
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*Approve Minutes of [[2018-01-29_CDAMG_WGM]]
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** No changes requested; Approved by consensus
 
*Review items
 
*Review items
**[http://wiki.hl7.org/images/6/6e/HL7_Project_Scope_Statement_Orthodontic_Attachment_v03.docx Orthodontic Attachment PSS]
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**[http://wiki.hl7.org/images/c/c7/20180208_HL7_PSS_CDA_XSL_Update_for_CDA_Release_2-1.docx CDA R2.1 Style Sheet Creation PSS]
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*** Motion to approve (Lisa/Rick) 0-0-4
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**[http://wiki.hl7.org/images/d/dd/PSS_StrucDocs_CDA_FHIR_HAI_201802_Revision.docx CDA FHIR HAI PSS]
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*** Discussed the need to have the Transforms from FHIR to CDA IG will eventually be needed in the FHIR IG
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*** Before the FHIR IG can be considered complete, the mappings between FHIR and CDA should go through ballot. Mapping spreadsheets need to be included as an informative resource.
 +
*** Rick expressed concern about mappings getting "locked down" and not allow for easy modifications
 +
*** Austin suggested we consider the production of the transforms as an additional component of the project for future consideration
 +
*** Brett wants to add, "When transforms are developed, they will be publically available for review."
 +
*** Austin - will take the question back to the CDC to see if they would be open to including this adjustment to the Scope Statement.
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*** Motion to approve with caveat that Scope will be modified to include making transforms publically available (Rick/Lisa) 0-0-4
 
*Discussion Topics
 
*Discussion Topics
**Asset - Status, and ongoing management.
 
 
**SWOT
 
**SWOT
*** Reviewed the SWOT drafted in SDWG earlier in the day
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***Reviewed the SWOT
*** Generalized the SWOT to make it less US Specific
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***Any updates as a result of activity at the WGM?
*** Does the CMG Scope cover the HL7 Affiliates or not?
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***Did we add: How do we manage quality problems for IG's that have already been published? Add as a Weakness list in SWOT.
*** Could we review the SWOT more frequently
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****A Project has to be initiated to re-affirm an existing IG to extend it for an additional 5 years.  CMG could identify low quality IGs and notify WGs that the quality bar has been raised, so issues would need to be addressed prior to re-affirmation.
**What are the requirements of a CDA Templates Registry - prep Tuesday Q4 discussion
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****Austin suggested we may want to identify low quality CDA IG's now so that workgroups could be notified of the future need
**Discuss the envisioned "superceeding" of CDA R2.0 with CDA R2.1 what it means to ANSI and HL7 Publishing and Implementer Use
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***Can we add: Threat and Opportunity - Trend toward mapping/developing FHIR and CDA interchange guidance simultaneously. Opportunity is to coordinate these efforts for consistency. Threat is decreased interoperability if not many simultaneous efforts produce divergent in inconsistent solutions - YES. Added
*** CMG will revisit this issue in the context of the Product Roadmap. 
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***George asked that we add an Opportunity to create an IG to address the USCDI plans for upcoming data classes - Notes and Data Provenance are up next
*** Jean asked: What is the expectation for CDA R2.0 after CDA R2.1 is released?
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***Austin explained that Affiliates do not need to bring PSSs to HL7.  CMG is International + US focused.
*** Linda asked: What happens to C-CDA if CDA R2.0 is superceeded by R2.1
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**Asset List - Status, and ongoing management.
**Create a check list procedure for CMG members to use when reviewing PSSs, Document CMG PSS Review process to be followed (Jean)
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***Linda asked if it was ok to add rows for IG's identified by CQI as missing from the asset list.  Answer:Yes!
*** Why should CMG get inserted so late in the process.  Should we aim to get involved sooner - at the NIB - to approve when things get startedFrom a quality perspective - should we be injected sooner. At the NIB, could we get involved then. When is the right time? Maybe two weeks prior to preliminary content has to come to CMG to review the work.  CMG is responsible for making sure that the sponsoring workgroup is the primary check of the QA criteria, then CMG reviews to make sure the Workgroup has enforced the QA criteria accurately.  Key is:  Is this work a duplicate?  Is it being done by the right group?  Are produced artifacts meeting the defined quality.  
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***Discuss Status/Development toward CDA Template Interchange Format
*** Should we push back and not have CMG be a step in the review process? We want to be a check box on the Publication Request to show that we have done the review with the submitting party. Injected Andrew/Rick [0-0-8] Approved.
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***Discuss Status of CDA Template Registry
** George Asked:  How do we manage quality problems for IG's that have already been publishes?  We agreed to add this to the Weakness list in SWOT.
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***What actions remain to be completed?
** Russ Ott presented a new PSS for Orthodontic Claims Attachment IG. Positioned as "based on C-CDA R2.1" It is subordinate under the Claims Attachment IG. This project is sponsored under the Attachments WG. "Inspired by the DOD as the "document receiver". Document creator would be a Dental EMR. 2-year STU. Russ will check with IHE Dental Domain to see what has been done there. Russ will get DOD to sign on as an implementer. Payer organization could be.  Rick/Jean [0-0-8] Approved.
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****Review progress on CMG Wiki changes - what's left to be completed?
 
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**Discuss need for & Development of overall CDA Product Roadmap
 
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***Roadmap needs to address questions like: 
 
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****Envisioned "superceeding" of CDA R2.0 with CDA R2.1 what it means to ANSI and HL7 Publishing and Implementer Use
===Meeting Outcomes===
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****Expectation for CDA R2.0 after CDA R2.1 is released?
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*****Would we require new IGs to be implemented on CDA R2.1 rather than CDA R2.0?
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*****Austin suggested the CMG may need to decide this or decide when this would take place.
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*****Austin - actRelationship codes may need to be reconsidered if C-CDA were revised on the CDA R2.1 standard
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***Review minutes from 2018-01-29.
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***Is our plan sufficiently clear and actionable? Do we need to document the procedure(s) we will follow regarding where CMG approval is being injected into the HL7 approval processes?
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***Learned from Anne Wizauer that the CMG is only responsible for approving PSSs and Publishing Requests.
 
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***In leiu of having a formal check-list, CMG will simply read and review each PSS and PubReq submitted for review
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**Discuss Request to add a new member to CMG representing the Quality perspective (Lisa)
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***We would need to have a discussion with SGB to make this request
 
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***Does anyone think adding a representative from QRDA would not be a good idea?
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***Austin asked if we have current members who are not participating now?
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***Brett noted the Friday late afternoon time makes the meeting hard to attend for EU participants
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| ||Jean Duteau
 
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| || Rick Geimer
 
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| || Kai Heitmann
 
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| || Brett Marquard
 
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| || Linda Michaelsen
 
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||| Dale Nelson
 
|-
 
| || Lisa Nelson
 
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| || Andrew Statler
 
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===Agenda===
 
*Agenda review
 
*Approve Minutes of [[2018-01-05_CDAMG_Conference_Call]]
 
*Review items
 
**[http://wiki.hl7.org/images/6/6e/HL7_Project_Scope_Statement_Orthodontic_Attachment_v03.docx Orthodontic Attachment PSS]
 
*Discussion Topics
 
**Asset - Status, and ongoing management.
 
**SWOT
 
**What are the requirements of a CDA Templates Registry - prep Tuesday Q4 discussion
 
**Discuss the envisioned "superceeding" of CDA R2.0 with CDA R2.1 what it means to ANSI and HL7 Publishing and Implementer Use
 
**Create a check list procedure for CMG members to use when reviewing PSSs, Document CMG PSS Review process to be followed (Jean)
 
 
 
===Minutes===
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
===Meeting Outcomes===
 
===Meeting Outcomes===
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*Approved the minutes from 1/30/2018
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*Approved the CDA R2.1 Stylesheet Creation PSS
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*Approved the CDA/FHIR HAI PSS with caveat to make transforms between FHIR and CDA publically available when they are developed--goal is transparency for cross-standard transformations
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*Approved making a request of SGB to add a member to the CDA Management Group that represents the Quality Use Case for CDA
  
 
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HL7 CDAMG Minutes

Location: Conference Call

Date: 2018-02-09
Time: 2:00 PM (ET)
Facilitator Brett Note taker(s) Lisa
Attendee Name


X George Dixon
Jean Duteau
X Rick Geimer
Kai Heitmann
X Brett Marquard
X Linda Michaelsen
Dale Nelson
X Lisa Nelson
Andrew Statler
Quorum: Chair +3

Agenda & Minutes

  • Welcome Guest: Austin Kreisler (Note: Call was not listed on the HL7 Conference Call Calendar)
  • Agenda review
  • Approve Minutes of 2018-01-29_CDAMG_WGM
    • No changes requested; Approved by consensus
  • Review items
    • CDA R2.1 Style Sheet Creation PSS
      • Motion to approve (Lisa/Rick) 0-0-4
    • CDA FHIR HAI PSS
      • Discussed the need to have the Transforms from FHIR to CDA IG will eventually be needed in the FHIR IG
      • Before the FHIR IG can be considered complete, the mappings between FHIR and CDA should go through ballot. Mapping spreadsheets need to be included as an informative resource.
      • Rick expressed concern about mappings getting "locked down" and not allow for easy modifications
      • Austin suggested we consider the production of the transforms as an additional component of the project for future consideration
      • Brett wants to add, "When transforms are developed, they will be publically available for review."
      • Austin - will take the question back to the CDC to see if they would be open to including this adjustment to the Scope Statement.
      • Motion to approve with caveat that Scope will be modified to include making transforms publically available (Rick/Lisa) 0-0-4
  • Discussion Topics
    • SWOT
      • Reviewed the SWOT
      • Any updates as a result of activity at the WGM?
      • Did we add: How do we manage quality problems for IG's that have already been published? Add as a Weakness list in SWOT.
        • A Project has to be initiated to re-affirm an existing IG to extend it for an additional 5 years. CMG could identify low quality IGs and notify WGs that the quality bar has been raised, so issues would need to be addressed prior to re-affirmation.
        • Austin suggested we may want to identify low quality CDA IG's now so that workgroups could be notified of the future need
      • Can we add: Threat and Opportunity - Trend toward mapping/developing FHIR and CDA interchange guidance simultaneously. Opportunity is to coordinate these efforts for consistency. Threat is decreased interoperability if not many simultaneous efforts produce divergent in inconsistent solutions - YES. Added
      • George asked that we add an Opportunity to create an IG to address the USCDI plans for upcoming data classes - Notes and Data Provenance are up next
      • Austin explained that Affiliates do not need to bring PSSs to HL7. CMG is International + US focused.
    • Asset List - Status, and ongoing management.
      • Linda asked if it was ok to add rows for IG's identified by CQI as missing from the asset list. Answer:Yes!
      • Discuss Status/Development toward CDA Template Interchange Format
      • Discuss Status of CDA Template Registry
      • What actions remain to be completed?
        • Review progress on CMG Wiki changes - what's left to be completed?
    • Discuss need for & Development of overall CDA Product Roadmap
      • Roadmap needs to address questions like:
        • Envisioned "superceeding" of CDA R2.0 with CDA R2.1 what it means to ANSI and HL7 Publishing and Implementer Use
        • Expectation for CDA R2.0 after CDA R2.1 is released?
          • Would we require new IGs to be implemented on CDA R2.1 rather than CDA R2.0?
          • Austin suggested the CMG may need to decide this or decide when this would take place.
          • Austin - actRelationship codes may need to be reconsidered if C-CDA were revised on the CDA R2.1 standard
          • Austin mentioned the modeling of the C-CDA Templates would be needed
          • Brett asked: Will CDA R2.1 include a complete "delta" view that could be included in the published CDA R2.0
        • What happens to C-CDA if CDA R2.0 is superceeded by R2.1?
        • Strategies for aligning C-CDA with FHIR?
    • Discuss Actions to be taken to solidify "check list procedure" for CMG members to use when reviewing PSSs, Document CMG PSS Review process to be followed (Jean)
      • Review minutes from 2018-01-29.
      • Is our plan sufficiently clear and actionable? Do we need to document the procedure(s) we will follow regarding where CMG approval is being injected into the HL7 approval processes?
      • Learned from Anne Wizauer that the CMG is only responsible for approving PSSs and Publishing Requests.
      • In leiu of having a formal check-list, CMG will simply read and review each PSS and PubReq submitted for review
    • Discuss Request to add a new member to CMG representing the Quality perspective (Lisa)
      • We would need to have a discussion with SGB to make this request
      • Does anyone think adding a representative from QRDA would not be a good idea?
      • Austin asked if we have current members who are not participating now?
      • Brett noted the Friday late afternoon time makes the meeting hard to attend for EU participants
      • Lisa asked - how would we ask SGB for this additional role? Austin said we would need to write up the request and submit it to SGB
        • Motion to take this up with SGB (Lisa/George) 0-0-4
    • Discuss C-CDA Value Set Maintenance situation - what role needed from CMG? (Lisa)

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
  • Approved the minutes from 1/30/2018
  • Approved the CDA R2.1 Stylesheet Creation PSS
  • Approved the CDA/FHIR HAI PSS with caveat to make transforms between FHIR and CDA publically available when they are developed--goal is transparency for cross-standard transformations
  • Approved making a request of SGB to add a member to the CDA Management Group that represents the Quality Use Case for CDA
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

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