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#Agenda review
 
#Agenda review
 
#Approve previous meeting minutes [[2016-12-15_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call]]
 
#Approve previous meeting minutes [[2016-12-15_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call]]
#*'''Motion:''' <moved>/<seconded>
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#*'''Motion:''' Stephen/Rob
 
#Prior Action Item Follow-up   
 
#Prior Action Item Follow-up   
 
# gForge change request
 
# gForge change request
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WGM agenda:  http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=January_2017_WGM_San_Antonio,_Jan_14_to_Jan_20
 
WGM agenda:  http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=January_2017_WGM_San_Antonio,_Jan_14_to_Jan_20
* Tues Q4 is on the PC agenda as Negation (chaired by Jay)
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* Tues Q4 is on the PC agenda as Negation (chaired by Jay) - Russ wouldn't be able to join;  Elaine, Rob H. can attend;
* Thurs Q1 is on the PC agenda as a CarePlan (chaired by Laura)
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* Thurs Q1 is on the PC agenda as a CarePlan (chaired by Laura) -- Russ & Rob H. can attend
* Wed Q1 is on the PC agenda as FHIR topics (chaired by me)
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* Wed Q1 is on the PC agenda as FHIR topics (chaired by me) -- Rob H and Russ can't attend
  
As a follow-up to our discussion on Dec 15 about finding a WGM quarter when Lloyd can join us to discuss pulling AdverseReaction back out into its own resource, he said:
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As a follow-up to our discussion on Dec 15 about finding a WGM quarter when Lloyd can join us to discuss pulling AdverseReaction back out into its own resource (http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11021), Lloyd said:
 
   
 
   
 
“I'll be with you Thurs Q1 and Tue Q4. I might be able to pop by briefly at the start of Wed Q1”
 
“I'll be with you Thurs Q1 and Tue Q4. I might be able to pop by briefly at the start of Wed Q1”
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Check with Lloyd to see if he can attend Thurs, Jan 12 conference call (5-5:30pm Central Time)
  
 
=== gForge Change Requests ===
 
=== gForge Change Requests ===
 
==== Questionnaire / QuestionnaireResponse Ownership ====
 
==== Questionnaire / QuestionnaireResponse Ownership ====
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12512 - Transfer ownership of Questionnaire to FHIR-I from PC (Grahame) - questionnaires are really an infrastructure thing that are cropping up all over the place, and the discussions around them are mostly driven by infrastructure concerns - types, metadata, processing requirements, form vs function, questionnaires vs profiles. Obviously PC will continue to have an interest in patient focused questionnaires, but I think that this is just one valid usage
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http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12512 - Transfer ownership of Questionnaire to FHIR-I from PC (Grahame) - questionnaires are really an infrastructure thing that are cropping up all over the place, and the discussions around them are mostly driven by infrastructure concerns - types, metadata, processing requirements, form vs function, questionnaires vs profiles. Obviously PC will continue to have an interest in patient focused questionnaires, but I think that this is just one valid usage
 
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* Russ/Stephen would prefer to retain ownership of the Questionnaire.  Data that comes from the questionnaire is an important part of the clinical workflow;  would like to figure out a joint ownership process
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* Rob H. thinks most of the SDC discussion is more like infrastructure
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* Serafina & Lisa - feels more infrastructure-related, though needs more clinical input during infrastructure discussions
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* Lisa - Questionnaires are used by vital records, public health, patient administration - structure is independent of the content of the questionnaire
  
 
====FHIR Publication / Backlog Status====
 
====FHIR Publication / Backlog Status====
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====In Person (Pending Schedule) ====
 
====In Person (Pending Schedule) ====
Joint with OO -- in the process of being scheduled
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Joint with OO -- in the process of being scheduled -- hopefully at WGM
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11026 Relationship between Condition and Observation - 2016-09 core #45  (Jay Lyle)  
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11026 Relationship between Condition and Observation - 2016-09 core #45  (Jay Lyle)  
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11119 Differentiate ProcedureRequest and DiagnosticRequest and align their elements - 2016-09 core #273  (Danielle Friend)
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11119 Differentiate ProcedureRequest and DiagnosticRequest and align their elements - 2016-09 core #273  (Danielle Friend)
  
 
==== Discussed Today ====
 
==== Discussed Today ====
TBD
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AllergyIntolerance
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* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11155 Unclear how the negation value set will work - 2016-09 core #309  (Stephen Chu) -- resolved!
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* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12177 Review/expand the AllergyIntolerance.criticality valueset (Mohannad Hammadeh) -- resolved!
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Questionnaire
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* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10998 Questionnaire.concept -> Questionnaire.code and update definitions - 2016-09 sdc #64  (Stephen Chu) - resolved!
  
 
==== Backlog - Ready to Discuss in Subsequent Calls ====
 
==== Backlog - Ready to Discuss in Subsequent Calls ====
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* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10725 - QA 4: CareTeam CodeableConcepts need a binding to a value set
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10725 - QA 4: CareTeam CodeableConcepts need a binding to a value set
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11334 - Constrain CareTeam participant role value set - 2016-09 core #492
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11334 - Constrain CareTeam participant role value set - 2016-09 core #492
 
AllergyIntolerance
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11155 Unclear how the negation value set will work - 2016-09 core #309  (Stephen Chu)
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12177 Review/expand the AllergyIntolerance.criticality valueset (Mohannad Hammadeh)
 
  
 
Condition
 
Condition
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Questionnaire / QuestionnaireResponse
 
Questionnaire / QuestionnaireResponse
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=10998 Questionnaire.concept -> Questionnaire.code and update definitions - 2016-09 sdc #64  (Stephen Chu)
 
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12186 Proposed Changes to Questionnaire / Questionnaire Response from Tuesday evening discussion (Grahame Grieve)  
 
* http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12186 Proposed Changes to Questionnaire / Questionnaire Response from Tuesday evening discussion (Grahame Grieve)  
  
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=== Adjourn ===
 
=== Adjourn ===
Adjourned at <hh:mm am/pm> <timezone>.
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Adjourned at 6:36PM Eastern.
  
 
==Meeting Outcomes==
 
==Meeting Outcomes==
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* Ask Lloyd to join us next Thurs, Jan 12 to discuss AllergyIntolerance
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* Follow up with Eric about OO/PC WGM quarters
  
 
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Latest revision as of 23:53, 5 January 2017



Meeting Information

Patient Care FHIR Resources Conference Call

Location: Conference Call
Phone Number: +1 770-657-9270
Participant Passcode: 943377
WebEx: https://cerner.webex.com/cerner/j.php?MTID=mfc8969c4f77244480beee61d31385e79

Date: 2017-01-05
Time: 5-6:30pm ET
Facilitator Michelle M Miller Note taker(s) Michelle M Miller
Attendee Name Affiliation


X Elaine Ayres NIH/Department of Clinical Research Informatics
X Stephen Chu
Danielle Friend Epic
X Eric Haas Haas Consulting
X Rob Hausam Hausam Consulting LLC
Laura Heermann-Langford Intermountain Healthcare
X Emma Jones Allscripts
X Russ Leftwich InterSystems
X Tony Little Optum 360
Jay Lyle Ockham Information Services LLC, VA
Sarah Maulden VA
Hank Mayers ReliaTech Consulting
Jim McClay Univ of Nebraska Medical Center
Russell McDonell Telstra Health
Lloyd McKenzie Gevity (HL7 Canada)
Larry McKnight Cerner
X Michelle M Miller Cerner
X Lisa Nelson Life Over Time Solutions
Viet Nguyen Lockheed Martin, Systems Made Simple
M'Lynda Owens Cognosante
Craig Parker Intermountain Healthcare
Scott Robertson Kaiser Permanente
Simon Sum Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics
Iona Thraen Dept of Veterans Affairs
X Joe Quinn Optum
X Serafina Versaggi Dept of Veterans Affairs
Quorum Requirements Met: yes

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Agenda review
  2. Approve previous meeting minutes 2016-12-15_Patient_Care_FHIR_Call
    • Motion: Stephen/Rob
  3. Prior Action Item Follow-up
  4. gForge change request

Supporting Information

STU 3 Timeline

From FHIR_Ballot_Prep

  • Sun. Nov. 27 Ballot substantive resource freeze (prioritize resources that IGs will be based on)
  • Sun. Dec. 4 Ballot total freeze
  • Sun. Dec. 9 (or a day or two earlier) Freeze released - all changes allowed
  • Sun. Feb. 5 Ballot reconciliation deadline - All ballot comments must be reconciled, tracker issue report must be clean
  • Sun. Feb. 19 Publication substantive resource freeze
  • Sun. Feb 26 Publication total freeze
  • Mon. Feb 27 QA period opens
  • Tue. Feb 28 FMM QA spreadsheet updated for all WG resources
  • Sun. Mar. 13 QA period closes
  • Sun. Mar. 20 All QA applied

The "following week" STU 3 is published!

FHIR Maturity Levels

[1] Level 3 requires the artifact has been verified by the work group as meeting the DSTU_2_QA_guidelines and has been subject to a round of formal balloting; has at least 10 implementer comments recorded in the tracker drawn from at least 3 organizations resulting in at least one substantive change

Resource
Current FMM Level Goal FMM Level QA Status QA Reviewer Implementation Comments
AllergyIntolerance 1 3 Michelle Argonaut
Condition 2 3 Michelle Argonaut
Procedure 1 3 Michelle Argonaut
CarePlan 1 3 Michelle Argonaut
Goal 1 3 Michelle
QuestionnaireResponse 2 2 Lloyd Lloyd will QA to get to level 3
Questionnaire 0 2 Lloyd Lloyd will QA to get to level 3
CareTeam 0 2 NA Michelle Aggressive goal (e.g. whether we'll get the implementations needed)
FamilyMemberHistory 1 2 NA NA Aggressive goal (e.g. whether we'll get the implementations needed)
ClinicalImpression 0 1 NA NA
ReferralRequest 1 1 NA NA
ProcedureRequest 1 1 NA NA
Linkage 0 1 NA NA
Flag 1 1 NA NA
Communication 1 1 NA NA
CommunicationRequest 1 1 NA NA

Note: Bold denotes top 20 resource based on survey
Note: Contraindication and Risk Assessment are owned by CDS, not Patient Care

Minutes

Prior Action Item Follow-up

WGM agenda: http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=January_2017_WGM_San_Antonio,_Jan_14_to_Jan_20

  • Tues Q4 is on the PC agenda as Negation (chaired by Jay) - Russ wouldn't be able to join; Elaine, Rob H. can attend;
  • Thurs Q1 is on the PC agenda as a CarePlan (chaired by Laura) -- Russ & Rob H. can attend
  • Wed Q1 is on the PC agenda as FHIR topics (chaired by me) -- Rob H and Russ can't attend

As a follow-up to our discussion on Dec 15 about finding a WGM quarter when Lloyd can join us to discuss pulling AdverseReaction back out into its own resource (http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=11021), Lloyd said:

“I'll be with you Thurs Q1 and Tue Q4. I might be able to pop by briefly at the start of Wed Q1”

Check with Lloyd to see if he can attend Thurs, Jan 12 conference call (5-5:30pm Central Time)

gForge Change Requests

Questionnaire / QuestionnaireResponse Ownership

http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=12512 - Transfer ownership of Questionnaire to FHIR-I from PC (Grahame) - questionnaires are really an infrastructure thing that are cropping up all over the place, and the discussions around them are mostly driven by infrastructure concerns - types, metadata, processing requirements, form vs function, questionnaires vs profiles. Obviously PC will continue to have an interest in patient focused questionnaires, but I think that this is just one valid usage

  • Russ/Stephen would prefer to retain ownership of the Questionnaire. Data that comes from the questionnaire is an important part of the clinical workflow; would like to figure out a joint ownership process
  • Rob H. thinks most of the SDC discussion is more like infrastructure
  • Serafina & Lisa - feels more infrastructure-related, though needs more clinical input during infrastructure discussions
  • Lisa - Questionnaires are used by vital records, public health, patient administration - structure is independent of the content of the questionnaire

FHIR Publication / Backlog Status

  • 43 unresolved tracker items (34 ballot + 9 high maturity resource non-ballot comments)
    • 16 requested input from vocab (value set related ballot comments) -- 5 of which require input from Patient Care first
    • 3 waiting for input
    • 2 waiting to be scheduled (joint with OO)
    • 14 ready for discussion during our weekly conference call
    • 8 Block Vote 1
  • 21 Resolved - Change Request tracker items
    • 19 ballot or high maturity resource (+ 2 non-ballot, non-priority resource)
    • 9 are substantive (+ 12 are non-substantive)
      • 4 related to new extensions/profiles
      • 1 workflow pattern
      • 3 ready to be applied
      • 1 new resources (AdverseEvent/Reaction)

Waiting for Input

In Person (Pending Schedule)

Joint with OO -- in the process of being scheduled -- hopefully at WGM

Discussed Today

AllergyIntolerance

Questionnaire

Backlog - Ready to Discuss in Subsequent Calls

Resources with higher maturity - target FMM Level 3

Workflow

CarePlan / Goal / CareTeam

Care Team

Value Set topics:

Condition

Procedure

Questionnaire / QuestionnaireResponse

ClinicalImpression

Communication/CommunicationRequest

Block Vote 1 (scheduled for Jan 12)

Adjourn

Adjourned at 6:36PM Eastern.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
  • Ask Lloyd to join us next Thurs, Jan 12 to discuss AllergyIntolerance
  • Follow up with Eric about OO/PC WGM quarters
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  1. Agenda review
  2. Approve previous meeting minutes
    • Motion: <moved>/<seconded> Abstain - <#>, Negative - <#>, Approve - <#>
  3. gForge change request

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