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==Meeting Minutes (DRAFT)==
 
==Meeting Minutes (DRAFT)==
  
Approval of Meeting Minutes for October 20
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'''Approval of Meeting Minutes for October 20'''
  
 
Objections: none, Abstentions: none, Motion Passed: 11
 
Objections: none, Abstentions: none, Motion Passed: 11
  
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'''Consent Directive Recirculation to NIB'''
  
'''Consent Directive Recirculation to NIB'''
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Recommend
recommend
 
 
* submit previous NIB (no change in scope)
 
* submit previous NIB (no change in scope)
 
* update as needed as going through approval processes (ballot announcement)
 
* update as needed as going through approval processes (ballot announcement)
 
* tentative: refresh interested parties (add patient choice project in ONC as interested party)
 
* tentative: refresh interested parties (add patient choice project in ONC as interested party)
  
MOTION: submit previous NIB, with reason why we are reballoting as per Lynne's e-mail ''unable to complete recirculation in time''
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'''MOTION:''' Submit previous NIB with reason why we are re-balloting as per Lynn's e-mail ''unable to complete recirculation in time''
 
(Johnathan/Ioana)
 
(Johnathan/Ioana)
Objections: none, Abstentions: none Motion Passes (11)
 
'' '''Lynn will need to submit NIB on the HL7 side, Ioana will assist NIB completion'' '''
 
  
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'''Objections: none, Abstentions: none, Motion Passes (11)'''
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'' '''Lynn will need to submit NIB on the HL7 side; Ioana will assist NIB completion'' '''
  
 
''[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/8934/13570/2016-Interoperability-Standards-Advisory%20-%20V2%20kc.docx Comments on ONC Draft Interoperability Standards Advisory]''
 
''[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/8934/13570/2016-Interoperability-Standards-Advisory%20-%20V2%20kc.docx Comments on ONC Draft Interoperability Standards Advisory]''
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* Clarify as re-balloting on Consent Directive ballot
 
* Clarify as re-balloting on Consent Directive ballot
* add R1, R2 for BH DAM
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* add R1, R2 for BH DAM
MOTION: (Kathleen/Glen) send (document name: ) with the two changes to PAC to go forward to the executive committee 
 
Objections: none, Abstentions: 1 (Johnathan), Motion Passes (10)
 
  
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'''MOTION:''' (Kathleen/Glen); Send (document name: ) with the two changes to PAC to go forward to the executive committee 
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'''Objections: none, Abstentions: 1 (Johnathan), Motion Passes (10)'''
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'''Draft CBCC and Security WG harmonization proposals for review on Tuesday’s CBCC and Security WG calls'''
  
'''Draft CBCC and Security WG harmonization proposals for review on Tuesday’s CBCC and Security WG calls.'''
 
 
Submitted proposals are attached along with the Summary shown below.  (Kathleen to walk participants through)
 
Submitted proposals are attached along with the Summary shown below.  (Kathleen to walk participants through)
  
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Example: Where there is a need to inform the subject of potential health issues.
 
Example: Where there is a need to inform the subject of potential health issues.
  
MOTION: (kahtleen/Johnathan) accept and approve for submission to final harmonization
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'''MOTION:''' (Kathleen/Johnathan) Accept and approve for submission to final harmonization
Disccusion: John M are these described w enough detail, where an organization can create an RBAC rules? the OPTOUT is complete, we have had problems with the concepts, with need to describe what limits authorized users meant. (comment) not saying we shouldn't go forewad, but we may need to further refine
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* these are the code on the consent directive, a high level characterization as to what kind of consent they are looking at vs the type of the procedure. there is further elaboration regarding service (BPPC?) where you can be very specific, i.e. further information of the author, etc.  
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Discussion:  
* just channeling the concern when people have attempted to use--at a high level its fine, but between organizations the argument needs to be determined
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* this points to the consent directive, not the CD itself
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John M - are these described with enough detail, where an organization can create RBAC rules? The OPT-OUT is complete, we have had problems with the concepts, with need to describe what limits authorized users meant. (Comment) Not saying we shouldn't go forward, but we may need to further refine
* as long as we are understanding that we need to eventually
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* these are the codes on the consent directive, a high level characterization as to what kind of consent they are looking at vs. the type of the procedure. There is further elaboration regarding service (BPPC?) where you can be very specific (i.e., further information of the author, etc.)
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* just channeling the concern when people have attempted to use - at a high level it's fine, but between organizations the argument needs to be determined
  
Objections: none; Abstentions: none; Motion passes: 11 passes
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'''Objections: none; Abstentions: none; Motion passes: 11'''
  
 
'''FHIR Consent Profile Timeslot'''
 
'''FHIR Consent Profile Timeslot'''
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* Doodle Poll sent out by John  
 
* Doodle Poll sent out by John  
 
** two slots had most choices....that also have Kathleen and Johnathan in attendance
 
** two slots had most choices....that also have Kathleen and Johnathan in attendance
*** Tuesday at 4:00 Central time
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*** Tuesday at 4:00 Central Time
*** Wednesday at 5:00 Central time (6ET)  
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*** Wednesday at 5:00 Central Time (6 ET)  
MOTION: (JohnM/Ioana) Propose Wednesday at 5:00 Central time (6ET) for FHIR Consent Profile meeting
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Abstentions: none; Objections: none; Motion Passes: 11
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'''MOTION:''' (JohnM/Ioana) Propose Wednesday at 5:00 Central time (6 ET) for FHIR Consent Profile meeting
  
Meetings will start at this time slot TOMORROW Wednesday 10/28
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'''Abstentions: none; Objections: none; Motion Passes: 11'''
CBCC Chair required (Johnathan/Suzanne as CBCC co-chair will be available to chair); we will use Johnathan's GoToMeeting, Suzanne to set up HL7 call
 
  
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* Meetings will start at this time slot TOMORROW, Wednesday 10/28
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* CBCC Chair required (Johnathan/Suzanne as CBCC co-chair will be available to chair); we will use Johnathan's GoToMeeting, Suzanne to set up HL7 call
  
 
'''BH DAM'''
 
'''BH DAM'''
Received several good reviews from SMEs
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* including issue SNOMED CT vs DSM question: were there walkthroughs of SNO to DSM (there are walk thorugh to ICD-10 from snomed; does it make sense to those implementioning the DAM use SNOMED
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* Received several good reviews from SMEs
* BH DAM discussion may be continued on e-mail as SMEs were not available on today's call
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* Ioana reported that David Tao voted negatively. One of this comments addressed the issue of using SNOMED CT vs. DSM and if there are walkthroughs from DSM to SNOMED.
** Steve Eicher, Jim Kretz, Mike Ladariere to be included in e-mail
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** According to Ioana, there are walkthroughs from SNOMED to ICD-9 and ICD-10. She questioned if it makes sense to encode information in SNOMED as encoding in DSM is the status quo in Behavioral Health right now.
* Two items that Ioana wants to speak to with the SMEs before finalizing disposition comments
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** Ioana followed up with David via email.
Ioana submitted a request to withdraw comments from Lantana and xxx  so we should be hearing back from them soon as we have addressed their negative comments
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** She also submitted a request to withdraw the negative comments from FDA because CBCC resolved them at the WGM in Atlanta.
  
 
'''PASS Access Control '''
 
'''PASS Access Control '''
* in process of ballot reconciliation comments
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* in process of reconciling the ballot comments
 
* VA, DoD comments remaining
 
* VA, DoD comments remaining
 
* comments from Lorraine Doo were not related to the PASS AC ballot  
 
* comments from Lorraine Doo were not related to the PASS AC ballot  
  
 
'''Vocabulary Alignment'''
 
'''Vocabulary Alignment'''
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Today's meeting covered definitions for  
 
Today's meeting covered definitions for  
 
* Update and Append
 
* Update and Append
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* Attach / Link
 
* Attach / Link
 
* Correct
 
* Correct
Updated version of the visio diagram (sent as PDF); sent to meeting attendee list
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* Updated version of the Visio diagram (sent as PDF); sent to meeting attendee list
  
  
Meeting adjouned at 1159 PST --[[User:Suzannegw|Suzannegw]] ([[User talk:Suzannegw|talk]]) 14:59, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
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''Meeting adjourned at 1159 PDT'' --[[User:Suzannegw|Suzannegw]] ([[User talk:Suzannegw|talk]]) 14:59, 27 October 2015 (EDT)

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Community-Based Collaborative Care Working Group Meeting

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Meeting Information

Attendees

Member Name x Member Name x Member Name
x Johnathan ColemanCBCC Co-Chair x Suzanne Gonzales-Webb CBCC Co-Chair Jim Kretz CBCC Co-Chair
. Max Walker CBCC Co-Chair x Mike Davis Security Co-Chair x John Moehrke Security Co-Chair
x Kathleen Connor . Ken Salyards CBCC Interim Co-Chair Lori Simon CBCC Interim Co-Chair
x Diana Proud-Madruga x Rick Grow Harry Rhodes
Serafina Versaggi x Ioana Singureanu x [mailto: Glen Marshall]
Steve Eichner . Steve Daviss . Wende Baker
x Neelima Chennamaraja x Lee Wise . Mike Lardiere
. Reed Gelzer . Marlowe Greenberg Chris Clark, WV
. Paul Knapp . Matt Peeling Brian Newton
. William Kinsley Lisa Nelson . Amanda Nash
x Russell McDonell Susan Litton David Bergman
. Linda Bailey-Woods . Debbie Bucci Chirag Bhatt
Oliver Lawless Keith Boone Lori McNeil Tolley
. Mohammed Jafari . Peter Fiaspa, Columbia University Gary Dickinson


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Agenda

  1. (05 min) Roll Call, Approve Meeting Minutes from October 20, 2015 CBCC Conference Call
  2. Consent Directive Recirculation to NIB VOTE
  3. Comments on ONC Draft Interoperability Standards Advisory- Kathleen
    • e-mail sent to listserve (see also attached: 2016-Interoperability)
  4. (05 min) Patient Friendly Language for Consumer User Interfaces - (Standing Agenda Item) - Update
  5. (05 min) HL7_CDAR2_DPROV_IG_DSTU10-22-2015.pdf - (Standing Agenda Item) - Update
  6. Draft CBCC and Security WG harmonization proposals for review
  7. (05 min) Behavioral Health Domain Analysis Model (HL7 BH DAM) Update
    • Unique Ballot ID: V3_DAM_BH_R2_I1_2015SEP, HL7 Version 3 Domain Analysis Model: Behavioral Health Record, Release 2 (Project Insight ID: 1174)
  8. FHIR Meeting Timeslot
  9. (10 min) PASS Access Control Services Conceptual Model - (Standing agenda item) update (Diana)
  10. (10 min) Joint EHR, Security, Privacy Vocabulary Alignment - (Standing agenda item) update (Diana/Mike)


Meeting Minutes (DRAFT)

Approval of Meeting Minutes for October 20

Objections: none, Abstentions: none, Motion Passed: 11

Consent Directive Recirculation to NIB

Recommend

  • submit previous NIB (no change in scope)
  • update as needed as going through approval processes (ballot announcement)
  • tentative: refresh interested parties (add patient choice project in ONC as interested party)

MOTION: Submit previous NIB with reason why we are re-balloting as per Lynn's e-mail unable to complete recirculation in time (Johnathan/Ioana)

Objections: none, Abstentions: none, Motion Passes (11)

Lynn will need to submit NIB on the HL7 side; Ioana will assist NIB completion

Comments on ONC Draft Interoperability Standards Advisory

  • Clarify as re-balloting on Consent Directive ballot
  • add R1, R2 for BH DAM

MOTION: (Kathleen/Glen); Send (document name: ) with the two changes to PAC to go forward to the executive committee

Objections: none, Abstentions: 1 (Johnathan), Motion Passes (10)

Draft CBCC and Security WG harmonization proposals for review on Tuesday’s CBCC and Security WG calls

Submitted proposals are attached along with the Summary shown below. (Kathleen to walk participants through)

Technical review of these initial proposals and input from the workgroups will be used to create the final proposals, which are due 11/08.

Draft Nov 2015 Harmonization proposals.docx – Summary for posting to Oct 27 CBCC and Security wiki agenda]

http://www.hl7.org/events/harmonization/

VALUE SET: ActConsentDirectiveType

Description:

ActConsentDirective and ActConsentType codes are used to specify the type of Consent Directive or Consent Type to which, for example, a Consent Act conforms, to which a Security Observation (Security Label) refers to, or to which a Privacy or Security Act refers. V:ActConsentDirectiveType is the union of v:ActConsentDirective [2.16.840.1.113883.1.11.20425] and v:ActConsentType [2.16.840.1.113883.1.11.19897].

Supported Code Systems: ActCode (2.16.840.1.113883.5.4)

Contains 2 children of type unionWithContent

Bound to Domains:

ActConsentDirectiveType and ActConsentType (CWE) in R1 (Representative Realm)

The combined ActConsentDirectiveType Value Set value set would include the following codes:

ABSTRACT CONCEPT: _ActConsentDirective [abstract term] Description: Definition: Specifies the type of consent directive indicated by an ActClassPolicy e.g., a 3rd party authorization to disclose or consent for a substitute decision maker (SDM) or a notice of privacy policy.

Usage Note: ActConsentDirective codes are used to specify the type of Consent Directive to which a Consent Directive Act conforms.

LEAF CONCEPT: EMRGONLY (emergency only) Description: This general consent directive specifically limits disclosure of health information for purpose of emergency treatment. Additional parameters may further limit the disclosure to specific users, roles, duration, types of information, and impose uses obligations.

Definition: Opt-in to disclosure of health information for emergency only consent directive.

LEAF CONCEPT: NOPP (notice of privacy practices) Description: Acknowledgement of custodian notice of privacy practices. Usage Notes: This type of consent directive acknowledges a custodian's notice of privacy practices including its permitted collection, access, use and disclosure of health information to users and for purposes of use specified.

LEAF CONCEPT: OPTIN (opt-in) Description: This general consent directive permits disclosure of health information. Additional parameter may limit authorized users, purpose of use, user obligations, duration, or information types permitted to be disclosed, and impose uses obligations.

Definition: Opt-in to disclosure of health information consent directive.

LEAF CONCEPT: OPTOUT (op-out) Description: This general consent directive prohibits disclosure of health information. Additional parameters may permit access to some information types by certain users, roles, purposes of use, durations and impose user obligations.

Definition: Opt-out of disclosure of health information consent directive.

ABSTRACT CONCEPT: _ActConsentType [abstract term] Description:

Definition: The type of consent directive, e.g., to consent or dissent to collect, access, or use in specific ways within an EHRS or for health information exchange; or to disclose health information for purposes such as research.

LEAF CONCEPT: ICOL (information collection) Description:

Definition: Consent to have healthcare information collected in an electronic health record. This entails that the information may be used in analysis, modified, updated.

LEAF CONCEPT: IDSCL (information disclosure) Description:

Definition: Consent to have collected healthcare information disclosed.

SPECIALIZABLE CONCEPT: INFA (information access) Description:

Definition: Consent to access healthcare information.

LEAF CONCEPT: INFAO (access only) Description:

Definition: Consent to access or "read" only, which entails that the information is not to be copied, screen printed, saved, emailed, stored, re-disclosed or altered in any way. This level ensures that data which is masked or to which access is restricted will not be.

Example: Opened and then emailed or screen printed for use outside of the consent directive purpose.

LEAF CONCEPT: 'IRDSCL (information redisclosure) Description:

Definition: Information re-disclosed without the patient's consent.

SPECIALIZABLE CONCEPT: RESEARCH (research information access) Description: Definition: Consent to have healthcare information in an electronic health record accessed for research purposes.

LEAF CONCEPT: RSDID (de-identified information access) Description:

Definition: Consent to have de-identified healthcare information in an electronic health record that is accessed for research purposes, but without consent to re-identify the information under any circumstance.

LEAF CONCEPT: RSREID (re-identifiable information access) Description:

Definition: Consent to have de-identified healthcare information in an electronic health record that is accessed for research purposes re-identified under specific circumstances outlined in the consent.

Example: Where there is a need to inform the subject of potential health issues.

MOTION: (Kathleen/Johnathan) Accept and approve for submission to final harmonization

Discussion:

John M - are these described with enough detail, where an organization can create RBAC rules? The OPT-OUT is complete, we have had problems with the concepts, with need to describe what limits authorized users meant. (Comment) Not saying we shouldn't go forward, but we may need to further refine

  • these are the codes on the consent directive, a high level characterization as to what kind of consent they are looking at vs. the type of the procedure. There is further elaboration regarding service (BPPC?) where you can be very specific (i.e., further information of the author, etc.)
  • just channeling the concern when people have attempted to use - at a high level it's fine, but between organizations the argument needs to be determined

Objections: none; Abstentions: none; Motion passes: 11

FHIR Consent Profile Timeslot

  • Doodle Poll sent out by John
    • two slots had most choices....that also have Kathleen and Johnathan in attendance
      • Tuesday at 4:00 Central Time
      • Wednesday at 5:00 Central Time (6 ET)

MOTION: (JohnM/Ioana) Propose Wednesday at 5:00 Central time (6 ET) for FHIR Consent Profile meeting

Abstentions: none; Objections: none; Motion Passes: 11

  • Meetings will start at this time slot TOMORROW, Wednesday 10/28
  • CBCC Chair required (Johnathan/Suzanne as CBCC co-chair will be available to chair); we will use Johnathan's GoToMeeting, Suzanne to set up HL7 call

BH DAM

  • Received several good reviews from SMEs
  • Ioana reported that David Tao voted negatively. One of this comments addressed the issue of using SNOMED CT vs. DSM and if there are walkthroughs from DSM to SNOMED.
    • According to Ioana, there are walkthroughs from SNOMED to ICD-9 and ICD-10. She questioned if it makes sense to encode information in SNOMED as encoding in DSM is the status quo in Behavioral Health right now.
    • Ioana followed up with David via email.
    • She also submitted a request to withdraw the negative comments from FDA because CBCC resolved them at the WGM in Atlanta.

PASS Access Control

  • in process of reconciling the ballot comments
  • VA, DoD comments remaining
  • comments from Lorraine Doo were not related to the PASS AC ballot

Vocabulary Alignment

Today's meeting covered definitions for

  • Update and Append
  • Merge properties
  • Attach / Link
  • Correct
  • Updated version of the Visio diagram (sent as PDF); sent to meeting attendee list


Meeting adjourned at 1159 PDT --Suzannegw (talk) 14:59, 27 October 2015 (EDT)