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*Roll Call
 
*Roll Call
 
*Agenda Check
 
*Agenda Check
*Key ballot issues
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*FGB co-chair position
*Comment submission process
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*Roundtable
*Objectives for the week
 
*Argonaut
 
*Ballot timelines
 
  
 
==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
  
Called to order at 12:58 pm
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Called to order at 3:35 pm
*Added two items to agenda: Argonaut and Ballot timelines.
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*Went over schedule and objectives for the week.
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===FGB co-chair==
*Key ballot issues mostly revolved around consistency.  
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As Woody isn't expected to be available for calls through to the May WGM
*Comment submissions - difficulty getting them to show up correctly into gforge - missing columns, etc. Will need to get it fixed asap or use the spreadsheet as a backup.
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:Motion: Lorraine to be acting co-chair through to end of May WGM Lloyd/Ewout FGB vote = unanimous
*QA may be an issue for many WGs who haven't had time to look at it due to accelerated work timelines.
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*Key thing by the end of the week is to communicate what we'll need from people for the next cycle.
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===May ballot timeline===
*Q4 on Thursday we'll be defining plans. We can say we're going to proceed with May ballot and the expectation is that all change requests will be applied or deferred and all QA will be done. Perhaps we should decide on Thursday that we shouldn't do it, but it may be too early to decide that we are? In terms of things that we can do: we can say that we're going on existing timelines, on existing timelines with a relaxed scope, that we're pushing to September ballot, or that we'll do an out of cycle ballot. There will be some political issues if we don't hit the May timeline. Change requests, quality criteria are issues we need to address. Lorraine mentions issues regarding WG issues with communication and confusion amongst the WGs.
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* All WGs seem comfortable other than OO which has serious douts.  
*Argonaut: confusion regarding governance of Argonaut. Need to be able to have some sense for the co-chairs dinner re: what is it, when are things happening, etc. Argonaut is accelerating the mapping for C-CDA, contributing to security. There is a challenge in that those who are doing the mapping are heads down doing the work and aren't engaging with the WGs. Grahame is doing some mapping, Brett, Eric Haas, others. We can make a request to have Grahame let the WGs know who is working on their parts of things. The concerns from a WG perspective are what is it, what do you need from us, is the contractor work happening on time, when and how will coordination occur. Mappings will likely be ready for review in March over the ballot process. WGs should be reviewing the mapping to ensure that it is correct before the ballot process. Change requests have to be raised before the ballot content deadline. Will the WG have bandwidth to do that? They should be given the opportunity anyway. The key component before DSTU2 was confidence that radical changes to the resources after DSTU 2 would not be necessary. Lorraine: we need to come up with a reasonable message to WGs about this. Lloyd: The domain committees will have review opportunity by end of March, then they can submit change requests from March to May. Discussion ensued regarding if this is sufficient and its adherence to HL7 procedures.
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Motion: We will announce an intention to go forward with the March 22nd content deadline.  Orders and Observations has indicated reservations about meeting that date and welcomes additional volunteers. Guidance is to place priority on DSTU 1 resources. A final decision on readiness for ballot will be made on March 23rd.
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Hans/Paul Unanimous
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===Roundtable===
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* HIE WG now exists.  Some discussion about whether it’s allowed to “develop content” due to its steering division.  The WG will take this up with the TSC. FMG/FGB will get involved if necessary
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* Request from OO to have responsibility for Order/OrderResponse
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**Motion: Re-assign Order/OrderResponse from FHIR-Core to OO
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**Hans/Lorraine Unanimous
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* US Realm task force has accepted that they will be responsible for some tracker items.  Paul will be the liaison. (Responsibility remains as they move from task force to board appointed committee.)
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* In person resolution
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** ACTION: Lloyd will check all items marked as “duplicate” and ensure that comments are added as comments.
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** post-meeting note: Only one line item was a duplicate marked as "in person" and it was a duplicate of another also marked as "in person" by the same voter
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* Ballot reconciliation spreadsheet will be what needs to go out
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** ACTION: FMG will develop a set of requirements for “support tooling” – e.g. trackers, etc. so we can provide more than just a list of issues w/ gForge.
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** ACTION: Change the tracker to allow “Persuasive with mod”, etc.
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* CARRY-FORWARD: connectathon topic – Devices would like to have a connectathon track – with real devices
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* FHIR registry tooling project is stalled as neither Grahame nor Furore is interested in providing an estimate. Furore is continuing to work on preparing a registry
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** CARRY-FORWARD: FHIR Registry tooling
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* New resource proposal to link Claim & Encounter is expected
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* CARRY-FORWARD: Update FMG Tracking sheet
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* Discussion of SD decision on Section. Will follow up with Grahame when he's back
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* Discussion of location of Contract profile. Notion that storing the consent record is distinct from storing the consent "flag"
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* CARRY-FORWARD: Ensure that WGs doing FHIR work have an MnM facilitator
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Adjourned at 5:03

Revision as of 16:10, 30 January 2015

HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes

Location:
Seguin

Date: 2015-01-18
Time: 12:30 PM U.S. Central
Chair: Note taker(s):Anne W.
Quorum = chair + 4 yes/no
Co chairs Regrets David Hay x Lloyd McKenzie (scribe)
ex-officio Woody Beeler,
Dave Shaver
FGB Co-chairs
x John Quinn, CTO
Members Members Members Observers/Guests
x Hans Buitendijk x Brian Postlethwaite x Paul Knapp Regrets Anne Wizauer, scribe
x Josh Mandel x John Moehrke x Brian Pech
Regrets Grahame Grieve x Lorraine Constable x Ewout Kramer
x Colin Wright,visitor x Marten Smits,visitor x Kevin Shekleton, visitor
x Tim Mcneel, visitor . .

Agenda

  • Roll Call
  • Agenda Check
  • FGB co-chair position
  • Roundtable

Minutes

Called to order at 3:35 pm

=FGB co-chair

As Woody isn't expected to be available for calls through to the May WGM

Motion: Lorraine to be acting co-chair through to end of May WGM Lloyd/Ewout FGB vote = unanimous

May ballot timeline

  • All WGs seem comfortable other than OO which has serious douts.

Motion: We will announce an intention to go forward with the March 22nd content deadline. Orders and Observations has indicated reservations about meeting that date and welcomes additional volunteers. Guidance is to place priority on DSTU 1 resources. A final decision on readiness for ballot will be made on March 23rd.

Hans/Paul Unanimous

Roundtable

  • HIE WG now exists. Some discussion about whether it’s allowed to “develop content” due to its steering division. The WG will take this up with the TSC. FMG/FGB will get involved if necessary
  • Request from OO to have responsibility for Order/OrderResponse
    • Motion: Re-assign Order/OrderResponse from FHIR-Core to OO
    • Hans/Lorraine Unanimous
  • US Realm task force has accepted that they will be responsible for some tracker items. Paul will be the liaison. (Responsibility remains as they move from task force to board appointed committee.)
  • In person resolution
    • ACTION: Lloyd will check all items marked as “duplicate” and ensure that comments are added as comments.
    • post-meeting note: Only one line item was a duplicate marked as "in person" and it was a duplicate of another also marked as "in person" by the same voter
  • Ballot reconciliation spreadsheet will be what needs to go out
    • ACTION: FMG will develop a set of requirements for “support tooling” – e.g. trackers, etc. so we can provide more than just a list of issues w/ gForge.
    • ACTION: Change the tracker to allow “Persuasive with mod”, etc.
  • CARRY-FORWARD: connectathon topic – Devices would like to have a connectathon track – with real devices
  • FHIR registry tooling project is stalled as neither Grahame nor Furore is interested in providing an estimate. Furore is continuing to work on preparing a registry
    • CARRY-FORWARD: FHIR Registry tooling
  • New resource proposal to link Claim & Encounter is expected
  • CARRY-FORWARD: Update FMG Tracking sheet
  • Discussion of SD decision on Section. Will follow up with Grahame when he's back
  • Discussion of location of Contract profile. Notion that storing the consent record is distinct from storing the consent "flag"
  • CARRY-FORWARD: Ensure that WGs doing FHIR work have an MnM facilitator

Adjourned at 5:03