20140618 FMG concall

HL7 TSC FMG Meeting Minutes Location: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/279790597 (voice and screen)		Date: 2014-06-18 Time: 1:00 PM U.S. Eastern
Chair: Lloyd		Note taker(s): David

Quorum = chair + 4			yes/no
Co chairs		David Hay		Lloyd McKenzie
ex-officio		Woody Beeler, Dave Shaver FGB Co-chairs	.	John Quinn, CTO

Members		Members		Members		Observers/Guests
	Hans Buitendijk		Hugh Glover		Paul Knapp	regrets	Lynn Laakso
	Josh Mandel		John Moehrke		Brian Pech		Austin Kreisler
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Agenda

• Roll Call
• Agenda Check
• Minutes from 20140611_FMG_concall
• Administrative
  • Action items
    • Andy will take a look at the security fix on the objective C reference implementation (Lloyd)
    • David will check with those that supplied the javascript code as well as with the server side javascript problems in the DSTU build to ensure it has the security fix.
    • Ewout will document the offer from Furore to host the FHIR registry (Lloyd)
    • PSS for DSTU2(Lloyd)
    • Liaison responsibility review/ transfer from Lorraine (Hans)
    • check that RP’s for current proposal have correct owner and approve as block. (David)
    • Policy statement on pre-DSTU draft for comment ballot rounds for development materials (Lloyd)
• Combined project review for FHIR-CCDA (Austin)
• SDC PSS updates requested (Paul/Lloyd)
• Project reviews deferred from last week
  • CQI FHIR update
  • Project Approval request of Health Care Devices to Develop FHIR resources and profiles for the second DSTU release for Health Care Devices WG of DESD at Project Insight # 1103 and TSC Tracker #3278
  • PA FHIR Resources DSTU2 Project Scope Statement at Project Insight #1102 -
  • OO FHIR Results Profile PSS for OO of SSD SD cosponsored by PHER of DESD at Project Insight #1113]
  • OO FHIR Lab Orders PSS at Project Insight #1067
  • OO FHIR DSTU Maintenance PSS at Project Insight # 1115
  • Imaging FHIR Resources PSS at Project Insight # 1107
• Reports
  • Connectathon management (David/Brian)
  • FGB –
    • Provide input/feedback on Fundamental Principles of FHIR
  • MnM –
  • FMG Liaisons –
• Process management
  • Ballot Planning
  • Ballot content review and QA process FHIR QA Guidelines
• AOB (Any Other Business)

Minutes

Present Lloyd McKenzie (LM) Paul knapp (PK) Andy Stechishin (AS) Hugh Glover (HG) David Hay (DH)

Started 1:10pm (US Eastern) Not at quorum Minutes not approved Agenda changes to discuss registry first

• Action items review
  • Andy will take a look at the security fix on the objective C reference implementation (Lloyd)
  • David will check with those that supplied the javascript code as well as with the server side javascript problems in the DSTU build to ensure it has the security fix. - to do
  • Ewout will document the offer from Furore to host the FHIR registry (Lloyd) Done
  • PSS for DSTU2(Lloyd) done
  • Liaison responsibility review/ transfer from Lorraine (Hans)- to do
  • check that RP’s for current proposal have correct owner and approve as block. (David) - to do
  • Policy statement on pre-DSTU draft for comment ballot rounds for development materials (Lloyd)- to do

Registries

• AS: formal process to get to this point
  • Was a PSS (ES/Tooling) for registry. Evaluated according to requirements. Looked at Hinjax (didn’t meet requirements).
  • ES didn’t have bandwidth to do internally + lack of expertise in FHIR – decided to look externally. May need to be an education/hand off to get internal expertise.
  • Process
    • if funded project then source of funds to be determined (chuck discretionary or tooling)
    • then to RFP. Process determined. Preference towards people already working in space.
    • Tooling will review RFP if from their budget.
    • John/Karen to determine Contract. Signed by Mark.

FMG Role:

• create RFP (to be vetted by Tooling, ES)
  • templates available
• part of selection process (joint with Tooling/ES)
• involved in acceptance of deliverables (ES as well)

WorkGroup roles (informally)

• ES – Managebility
• Tooling – Architecture
• FMG – functionality

AS: Login details HL7 should be OAuth Provider (Personal opinion)

LM: Our next steps taking initial drafts and other material (eg Furore material) to create RFP AS: workgroups vote to accept RFP, then go to Karen/John PK: do we want to send estimated costs to Karen ? AS: HQ may state budget – do we have any thoughts? LM: not clear AS: do we want to add suggested business model to reduce cost to HL7? Ie shared costs with downstream benefits to vendor. Costs to HL7 above about 60K would be difficult... LM: discussion of requirements.

• Content from Lloyd / Furore.
• OID registry probably out. Will have namespace registry – similar to OID registry but doesn’t issue OIDs. Plus OID registry moving to pay model and will increase scope cost. Will consider integration later.
• concern about public vote up/down. (crowd sourcing)
  • PK: concerned about political impact. Organization might have concerns. Might have impact in standards creation (there’s a process to follow to get a standard which is then fixed.) Crowd sourcing is different. What is the impact on standards? Basically need to get input from HQ.
  • LM: can the submitter controlled the ability for this to occur. Community endorsement might be good for some, Name recognition (e.g. ONC) for other.
  • LM: HL7 endorsed content needs to be distinct from community content.
  • PK: is community approval appropriate for balloted material in general. If not then is it OK for the HL7 site to have both options (fixed & community).
  • LM: how to do curation? Crowd source is an option (alternative is individual – free or paid).
  • AS: there are other models of curation (eg internal, ‘iStore’, I use this) (Templates registry business requirements document has a list of options)
  • PK ‘I use this’ different to ‘I like this’. We should state requirement for curation to remove redundancies. LM: need to be specific about mechanism for RFP.
  • LM: curation very hard if not done by community that uses it. (need the context that it’s being used in)

LM: at time. Discussion to continue on list – especially curation model given constraints/requirements. Close at 2:07pm

Next Steps

Actions (Include Owner, Action Item, and due date) Andy will take a look at the security fix on the objective C reference implementation (Lloyd) David will check with those that supplied the javascript code as well as with the server side javascript problems in the DSTU build to ensure it has the security fix. *Liaison responsibility review/ transfer from Lorraine (Hans check that RP’s for current proposal have correct owner and approve as block. (David) Policy statement on pre-DSTU draft for comment ballot rounds for development materials (Lloyd) LM – update requirements for registry Create RFP draft for registry (include curation mechanism) Tooling/ES to draft requirements for registry also

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