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==Attendees==
 
==Attendees==
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* Melva Peters (Chair
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* Melva Peters (Chair)
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* Julie James
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* John Hatem
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* Scott Robertson
  
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==List Serve Discussions - DEFERRED==
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==List Serv Discussions==
 
 
===Compounded medications===
 
===Compounded medications===
 
* from 12/2 call:  agreed cannot describe compounds in a structured way in CDA R2.  Describe in text.  Scott to advise Gaye/SDWG.
 
* from 12/2 call:  agreed cannot describe compounds in a structured way in CDA R2.  Describe in text.  Scott to advise Gaye/SDWG.
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* summary sent to Gaye/Bob.  some futher discussion but no response from Gaye/Bob
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* summary sent to Gaye/Bob.  some further discussion but no response from Gaye/Bob
  
 
===PRN Medication Orders - how to do them in CDA===
 
===PRN Medication Orders - how to do them in CDA===
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*FYI - [http://www.hl7.org/v3ballotarchive_temp_D9D0DDAA-1C23-BA17-0C99E59C46C46700/v3ballot/html/welcome/introduction/index.html Preview site]  
 
*FYI - [http://www.hl7.org/v3ballotarchive_temp_D9D0DDAA-1C23-BA17-0C99E59C46C46700/v3ballot/html/welcome/introduction/index.html Preview site]  
 
*MTM CDA Template
 
*MTM CDA Template
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** status from Scott
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** has not made it into the ballot - may need to do an out of cycle ballot - Scott to talk to Don
  
 
==Publication Status==
 
==Publication Status==
 
* Med Order
 
* Med Order
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** Publication Request Status
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** Publication Request Status - not complete
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**Scott to work on what he can
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** Discuss on next call
 
* Med Dispense
 
* Med Dispense
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** Publication Request Status
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** Publication Request Status - not complete
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**Scott to work on what he can
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** Discuss on next call
 
* Medication CMETs
 
* Medication CMETs
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** Publication Request Status
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** Publication Request Status - not complete
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**Scott to work on what he can
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** Discuss on next call
 
* Pharmacy CMETs
 
* Pharmacy CMETs
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** Publication Request Status
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** Publication Request Status - not complete
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**Scott to work on what he can
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** Discuss on next call
  
 
==Clinical Decision Support Virtual Medical Record==
 
==Clinical Decision Support Virtual Medical Record==
 
* Melva voted negative on behalf of Pharmacy, Pharmacy needs to review CDS' response.  
 
* Melva voted negative on behalf of Pharmacy, Pharmacy needs to review CDS' response.  
 
* [[File:recon_hl7_cds_vmr_lm_r2_i1_2013sep.xlsx]]
 
* [[File:recon_hl7_cds_vmr_lm_r2_i1_2013sep.xlsx]]
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**Need to see the models to see how they have modelled - the reconciliations are okay, but need to see the models
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Actions:  Melva to request the models from CDS
  
 
==FHIR==
 
==FHIR==
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* Status
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* Status - DEFERRED
  
 
===FHIR Immunization and Medication Administration Task Force===
 
===FHIR Immunization and Medication Administration Task Force===
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* Status
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* Status - PHER and Pharmacy resources met to discuss
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** Mapping of Immunization attributes and definitions to Medication Administration has been completed and reviewed with PHER - some gaps
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** Divided in phases
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***1st phase by December 24th - trying to harmonize "like" attributes - will forward to Joginder - 8 attributes have been mapped - need to harmonize names and definitions
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**** Lot Number - should add to Medication Resource
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****Expiration Date - should add to Medication Resource
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**** Explanation Reason - reason why vaccine administered - could this be mapped to indication - need more information
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****Explanation Refusal Reason - reason why vaccine not administered - we have a similar attribute in medication administration
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**** Immunization Protocol - may be unique to Immunization
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**** Immunization.date - in Medication Admin - called "whenGiven" - can we simplify to "date" - FHIR names are supposed to be more "human friendly" - so maybe "date when given"
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**** Immunization.subject - we both point to patient resource, but need to harmonize name/definitions - recommend "patient"
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**** Immunization.performer - both reference Practitioner resource - need to harmonize name/definitions
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**** Immunization.site - same as MedicationAdministration.dosage.site - harmonize name/definitions
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****Immunization.route - same as MedicationAdministration.dosage.route - harmonize name/definitions
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**** Immunization.doseQuantity - same as MedicationAdministration.doseQuantity - harmonize name/definitions
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***2nd phase - won't be complete before Christmas - need to look at "similar concepts" but where they are modelled differently to determine how to represent consistently
  
 
==Joint IHE Meeting==
 
==Joint IHE Meeting==
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*
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* DEFERRED
  
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==Next meeting - January 6, 2014 4pm Eastern==
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==Next meeting - January 6, 2014 - 4pm Eastern==

Latest revision as of 22:00, 16 December 2013

Attendees

  • Melva Peters (Chair)
  • Julie James
  • John Hatem
  • Scott Robertson

List Serve Discussions - DEFERRED

Compounded medications

  • from 12/2 call: agreed cannot describe compounds in a structured way in CDA R2. Describe in text. Scott to advise Gaye/SDWG.
  • summary sent to Gaye/Bob. some further discussion but no response from Gaye/Bob

PRN Medication Orders - how to do them in CDA

  • from 11/25 email: Tom will send summarization
  • 12/9: Discussion continues on the list, mostly about the need for an explicit code
Action: Scott will connect with Tom about a final summarization of the issue

January 2014 Ballot

  • FYI - Preview site
  • MTM CDA Template
    • has not made it into the ballot - may need to do an out of cycle ballot - Scott to talk to Don

Publication Status

  • Med Order
    • Publication Request Status - not complete
    • Scott to work on what he can
    • Discuss on next call
  • Med Dispense
    • Publication Request Status - not complete
    • Scott to work on what he can
    • Discuss on next call
  • Medication CMETs
    • Publication Request Status - not complete
    • Scott to work on what he can
    • Discuss on next call
  • Pharmacy CMETs
    • Publication Request Status - not complete
    • Scott to work on what he can
    • Discuss on next call

Clinical Decision Support Virtual Medical Record

  • Melva voted negative on behalf of Pharmacy, Pharmacy needs to review CDS' response.
  • File:Recon hl7 cds vmr lm r2 i1 2013sep.xlsx
    • Need to see the models to see how they have modelled - the reconciliations are okay, but need to see the models
Actions:  Melva to request the models from CDS

FHIR

  • Status - DEFERRED

FHIR Immunization and Medication Administration Task Force

  • Status - PHER and Pharmacy resources met to discuss
    • Mapping of Immunization attributes and definitions to Medication Administration has been completed and reviewed with PHER - some gaps
    • Divided in phases
      • 1st phase by December 24th - trying to harmonize "like" attributes - will forward to Joginder - 8 attributes have been mapped - need to harmonize names and definitions
        • Lot Number - should add to Medication Resource
        • Expiration Date - should add to Medication Resource
        • Explanation Reason - reason why vaccine administered - could this be mapped to indication - need more information
        • Explanation Refusal Reason - reason why vaccine not administered - we have a similar attribute in medication administration
        • Immunization Protocol - may be unique to Immunization
        • Immunization.date - in Medication Admin - called "whenGiven" - can we simplify to "date" - FHIR names are supposed to be more "human friendly" - so maybe "date when given"
        • Immunization.subject - we both point to patient resource, but need to harmonize name/definitions - recommend "patient"
        • Immunization.performer - both reference Practitioner resource - need to harmonize name/definitions
        • Immunization.site - same as MedicationAdministration.dosage.site - harmonize name/definitions
        • Immunization.route - same as MedicationAdministration.dosage.route - harmonize name/definitions
        • Immunization.doseQuantity - same as MedicationAdministration.doseQuantity - harmonize name/definitions
      • 2nd phase - won't be complete before Christmas - need to look at "similar concepts" but where they are modelled differently to determine how to represent consistently

Joint IHE Meeting

  • DEFERRED

Next meeting - January 6, 2014 - 4pm Eastern

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