MnM Minutes WGM 201301 Phoenix

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Sunday Jan 13 Q3

Attendees

Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Agenda

Establish Agenda for WGM from Hot Topics and FHIR Methodology Needs

Steps:

• Selected "Identifiers related to Social Media" and "Uncertainties around Procedure" for discussion in session on Q2 Thursday.
• Discussed Need for M&M Co-chairs to address the question of MnMs directions with regards to "new" Methodology Responsibilities. Will address at Lunch on Wednesday
• Verified Needs of FHIR for Methodology Sessions and Ballot Reconciliation Sessions and assigned these through the schedule.

Final Agenda was posted on Gforge and circulated by e-mail Sunday evening

Monday 1/14 Q1

Attendees

• Andy Bond (andy.bind@nehta.gov.au)
• Nat Wong (nwong@totalcare.net.au)
• Woody Beeler (woody@beeler.com)
• Rik Smithies (rik@nprogram.co.uk)
• Alexander Henket (alexanderhenket@enovation.nl)
• Ewout Kramer (ekramer@furure.com)
• Grahame Grieve (grahame@healthintersections.com.au)
• Dave Shaver (dave.shaver@corepointhealth.com)
• Yukinori Konishi (koni@kis-ihc.jp)
• Sakamu Takasaka (s.takasaka@gmail.com)
• Andrew Liu (aliu@infoway.ca)
• John Moehrkhe (john.moehrke@ge.com)
• Paolo Russian (paolo.russian@hosgroup.com)
• Saul Kravitz (skravtiz@mitre.com)
• Alex Zupan (alex.zupan@tbsgroup.com)

FHIR - Define Principles and Methodology Implications of:

Must Understand

After a discussion of the way mustUnderstand works, the following recommendations were made:

1. “mustUnderstand” should only be declared on an element whose meaning would reasonably affect the meanings of parent or peer elements. 2. It does *not* indicate any expectation that mustSupport is true for the element, nor should it be used a general purpose importance flag

The name "mustUnderstand" was discussed, and the subject was tabled on the basis that the name, definition and implications of mustUnderstand will be revisited subsequently (along with mustSupport).

Adopted: Grahame/Rik 15-0-0

Interversion Compatibility

• Let people know that we are trialing inter-version compatibility during the DSTU process
• No guarantee of consistency between DSTU versions while we work this out
• expectation of breaking changes between DSTU and Normative edition
• we will clarify the methodology implications through the DSTU process
• FHIR project team will draft working guidelines to test through that process

Adopted Grahame/Ewout 15-0-0

Default Values

• Default values are to not supported by the FHIR methodology
• if an element is labeled mustUnderstand, and the value is not explicit in the instance, or known by the context, the resource cannot be understood
• implementation guidance may need to discuss appropriate behavior in the context of absent values

Adopted: Grahame / Zoran 15-0-0

Element Naming Policies

Meeting adjourned at 10:30 with no time to consider element naming policies

Monday 1/14 Q2

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Tuesday 1/15 Q1

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Tuesday 1/14 Q4

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Wednesday 1/16 Q1

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Wednesday 1/16 Q2

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Wednesday 1/16 Q3

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Thursday 1/17 Q1

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Thursday 1/17 Q2

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Thursday 1/17 Q5

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Friday 1/18 Q2

Attendees

Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker

Agenda Planning for May 2013 WGM in Atlanta

Achdiat, Meya (Standards Australia)

Achilles, Tanya

Acker, Beth (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)

Adlassnig, Klaus-Peter (Medexter Healthcare GmbH)

Agarwal, Kunal (New York eHealth Collaborative)

Alfano, William (Blue Cross Blue Shield Association)

Altamore, Rita (Washington State Department of Health)

Ayres, Elaine (NIH/CC)

Bailey, Steven (AZ Dept. Of Health Services)

Baker, John (Lantana Consulting Group)

Batra, Virinder (Intuit Health)

Bauer, Herbert (Mayo Foundation)

Beebe, Calvin (Mayo Clinic)

Beeler Jr, George (Woody) (Beeler Consulting LLC)

Behling, Diana (Iatric Systems)

Beighe, Bill (Physicians Medical Group of Santa Cruz County)

Belvin, Ginger (Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Alabama)

Bender, Duane (Mohawk College)

Besho, Ornela (American Dental Association)

Bigham, Lillian (Health Level Seven International)

Blobel, Bernd (HL7 Germany Voter #10)

Bojicic, Aleksandar (Canada Health Infoway)

Bond, Andy (National eHealth Transition Authority (NEHTA))

Boone, Keith (GE Healthcare)

Boxwala, Aziz (Meliorix Inc.)

Boyle, Mary Ann (Health Level Seven International)

Braithwaite, William (Anakam Identity Services, Equifax)

Britton, Jeffrey (Oregon Health and Sciences University)

Broderick, Stephanie (First Databank)

Brown, Barry (Mortara Instrument, Inc.)

Brown, Jeff (Kernodle Clinic, Inc.)

Brown, Louise (Gordon Point Informatics Ltd.)

Brown, Steve (Department of Veteran Affairs)

Buitendijk, Hans (Siemens Healthcare)

Bunker, Nathan (American Immunization Registry Association)

Burckhardt, Laurie (Wisconsin Physicians Service Ins. Corp.)

Bushman, Mary Lynn (National Government Services)

Cabrita, Rolim (Interfaceware)

Cajigas, Julio (HL7 Puerto Rico)

Canale, John (Cleveland Clinic)

Cannady, Patrick (American Dental Association)

Canu, Nicolas (HL7 France, L'Atelier du Soft)

Carter, John (Apelon, Inc.)

Case, James (National Library of Medicine)

Cash, Jamie (Abbott)

Chaplock, Sharon (Health Level Seven International)

Che, Chengjian

Chu, Stephen (National eHealth Transition Authority (NEHTA) Australia)

Collins, Jennifer (ViPS)

Connor, Kathleen (Edmond Scientific Company)

Constable, Lorraine (HL7 Canada)

Cooper, Todd (80001 Experts, LLC)

Coyle, Joey

Craig, Chad (Cleveland Clinic)

Craig, Patricia (The Joint Commission)

Crouse, Julie (HHS/ONC - Office of Science and Technology)

Curry, Jane (Health Information Strategies Inc.)

Curtis, Arthur (U. S. Dept. of Veterans Affairs)

Dagnall, Bo (HP Enterprise Services)

Daoust, Norman (Daoust Associates)

Darst, Laura (Mayo Clinic)

Datta, Gora (CAL2CAL Corporation)

Daus, Jane (McKesson Provider Technologies)

Daussat, Lura (OZ Systems)

Davis, Mike (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)

Daviss, Steven (American Psychiatric Association)

Dawson, Tim (Vital Images)

Day, Durwin

de Jong, Tom (HL7 Netherlands)

de Leon, Alexander (Kaiser Permanente)

DeAngelis, Travis (ADP advancedmd)

Del Fiol, Guilherme (University of Utah Health Care)

DeYoung, Lizzie (The MITRE Corporation)

Dickinson, Gary (CentriHealth)

Diederen, A.W.J. (Bart) (HL7 Netherlands)

Distad, Steve (Steve Distad Consulting, LLC)

Dixon Hughes, Richard (HL7 Australia)

Dolin, Gaye (Lantana Consulting Group)

Dolin, Robert (Lantana Consulting Group)

Drijfhout-Wisse, Helen (HL7 Netherlands)

Duteau, Jean (Duteau Design Inc)

Eaton, Scott (Mindray DS USA, Inc.)

Edwards, Rick (Iatric Systems)

Eisenberg, Floyd (iParsimony LLC)

Endle, Cory (Mayo Clinic)

Estelrich, Ana (Phast)

Farkas, Attila (HL7 Canada)

Farmer, Jon (Marin Health Network)

Fehre, Karsten

Ferguson, James (Kaiser Permanente)

Ferguson, Maree

Flessner, Benjamin (Epic Systems Corporation)

Fonseca, Brad (Canada Health Infoway - Inforoute Santé du Canada)

Fridsma, Douglas (Office of the National Coordinator for Health IT)

Fuchs, Kenneth

Fyfe, Justin (Mohawk College)

Gabriel, Davera (University of California, Davis)

Gabron, Craig (Blue Cross Blue Shield of South Carolina)

Garguilo, John (National Institute of Standards)

Gaunt, Sarah (Lantana Consulting Group)

Geimer, Rick (Lantana Consulting Group)

Genereaux, Brad (Agfa HealthCare)

Gessner, Christof (HL7 Germany Voter #2)

Ghlamallah, Adel (Canada Health Infoway)

Gilbert, Peter (Covisint)

Gilligan, Maggie

Glover, Hugh (Blue Wave Informatics)

Goga, Nicolae (University of Groningen)

Goldschmidt, Peter (Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality)

Gonzales-Webb, Suzanne (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)

Goossen, William (HL7 Netherlands)

Goossen-Baremans, Anneke (Results 4 Care)

Graeff, Catherine

Graham, Matthew (Mayo Clinic)

Grain, Heather (Standards Australia, eHealth Education)

Greenes, Robert (Arizona State University)

Grieve, Grahame (Health Intersections Pty Ltd)

Guinn, Barry (Epic)

Haas, Eric (Haas Consulting)

Haddad, Marlene (DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS)

haddadin, ihab

Haddorff, Rick (Mayo Clinic)

Hadley, Marc (The MITRE Corporation)

Hagan, Edward

Hall, Freida (Quest Diagnostics, Incorporated)

Halvorsen, Terje (HL7 Norway)

Hamill, Caitilin (FDA/CBER)

Hamill, Dave (Health Level Seven International)

Hamm, Russell

Hammond, W. Edward (Duke Translational Medicine Institute)

Hartveit, Lars-Gunnar

Harvey, John (Iatric Systems)

Hatem, John (Oracle Corporation - Healthcare)

Haug, Peter (Intermountain Healthcare)

Hausam, Robert (Hausam Consulting)

Hay, Christian (GS1)

Hay, David (HL7 New Zealand)

Heermann Langford, Laura (Intermountain Healthcare)

Heggli, Beat (HL7 Switzerland)

Heitmann, Kai (HL7 Germany)

Helton, Edward (National Cancer Institute)

Henderson, Mike (Eastern Informatics, Inc.)

Hendler, Peter (Kaiser Permanente)

Henket, Alexander (HL7 Netherlands)

Heras, Yan

Hirai, Masaaki (HL7 Japan Voter #2 - Nihon Kohden Corp, Eng. Oper.)

Hobbs, Allen (Kaiser Permanente)

Holt, Erin (TN Dept of Health)

Howarter, Kay (Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics)

Huang, Wendy (Canada Health Infoway Inc.)

Huff, Stanley (Intermountain Healthcare)

Hufnagel, Steve (U.S. Department of Defense, Military Health System)

Humphries, Peter (FMCS Ltd)

Hurrell, Martin

Imholte, Sara (Arizona Department of Health Services)

Jaffe, Charles (Health Level Seven International)

James, Julie (Blue Wave Informatics)

James, Lenel (Blue Cross Blue Shield Association)

Jenders, Robert (National Library of Medicine)

Julian, Anthony (Mayo Clinic)

Kallas, Nichle (American College of Cardiology)

Kallem, Crystal (Lantana Consuting Group)

Kaminker, Diego (HL7 Argentina)

Kann, Vannak (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)

Kawamoto, Kensaku (University of Utah Health Care)

Khan, Hetty (CDC/NCHS)

Kim, Il Kon (HL7 Korea)

Kirnak, Alean (Software Partners LLC)

Kiser, John (Abbott)

Klein, William Ted (Klein Consulting, Inc.)

Knafel, Andrzej

Knapp, Paul (HL7 Canada)

Knight, Beverly (HL7 Canada)

Knotts, Christina (First Databank)

Koch, Kevin (Iatric Systems Inc.)

Koenig, Helmut (Siemens Healthcare)

Konishi, Yukinori (HL7 Japan)

Kramer, Ewout (Furore)

Kreisler, Austin (SAIC - Science Applications International Corp)

Kretz, James (SAMHSA)

Kuhn, Thomson

Kulkarni, Vinayak (Siemens Healthcare)

Kuppe, Patrice (Surescripts)

Laakso, Lynn (Health Level Seven International)

Langford, Patrick

Lardiere, Michael (The National Council for BehavioralHealth)

Larson, Alan (Ventana Medical Systems)

Larson, Eric

Lee, Stacey

Lee, Sungkee (HL7 Korea)

Lee, Victor (Zynx Health)

Leftwich, Russell (Office of eHealth Initiatives)

Legg, Michael (Michael Legg and Associates)

Leif, Robert (Newport Instruments)

Light, Amy

Liu, Andrew (HL7 Canada)

Lloyd, Don (Health Level Seven International)

Lorenzi, Virginia (New York-Presbyterian Hospital)

Lyle, Jay (Ockham Information Services LLC)

Macumber, Caroline (Apelon, Inc.)

Maddux, Suzanne (American Society of Clinical Oncology)

Madra, Joginder (Gordon Point Informatics Ltd.)

Marquard, Brett (River Rock Associates LLC)

Marquez, Arthur (CaptureRx)

Marr, Sandra

Martin, Michael (American Assoc. of Veterinary Lab Diagnosticians)

Matney, Susan (3M Health Information Systems)

May, Karen (Iatric Systems)

McAllister, Bonnie (Iatric Systems)

McCaslin, Ken (Quest Diagnostics, Incorporated)

McCauley, Vincent (McCauley Software Pty Ltd)

McClay, James (University of Nebraska Medical Center)

McClure, Robert

McDaniel, Mary Kay (Cognosante, LLC)

McDonald, Clement (National Library of Medicine)

McDougall, Mark (Health Level Seven International)

McKay, Tim (Kaiser Permanente)

McKenzie, Lloyd (HL7 Canada)

McKinley, Jim (Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Alabama)

McNeil, Tim (Surescripts)

Mead, Charles

Meisner, Deborah (Emdeon, LLC)

Meneses, Enrique (CareFlow Solutions)

Mense, Alexander (HL7 Austria Voter #2)

Meredith, Terri (Cerner Corporation)

Milius, Bob (National Marrow Donor Program)

Milosevic, Zoran (Deontik Pty Ltd)

Minton, Bernadette (Zynx Health)

Miyohara, Hideyuki (HL7 JAPAN)

Mon, Donald (RTI International)

Monk, Terri (Duke Translational Medicine Institute)

Moon, Ji Won (AZ Dept of Health)

MU, Shengli (Phast)

Mulrooney, Galen (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)

Mulrooney, Jackie (J P Systems, Inc.)

Myerburg, Stuart (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention/CDC)

Myers, Shawn (Healthwise, Inc.)

Nachimuthu, Senthil (3M Health Information Systems)

Nahm, Meredith (Duke Translational Medicine Institute)

Nanjo, Claude (Zynx Health)

Navas, Marisol (VHA Office of Informatics and Analytics)

Nelson, Dale (Lantana Consulting Group)

Nelson, Rene'

Nelson, Stuart (Apelon)

Nguyen, Thao

Nguyen, Viet (Systems Made Simple, Inc.)

Nightingale, Mark (Iatric Systems)

Norton, Andrew (United Lincolnshire Hospitals)

O'Donnell, Kevin (Toshiba Medical Research)

Oemig, Frank (HL7 Germany Voter #3)

Panchal, Jesal

Parapini, Eric

Parisot, Charles (GE Healthcare)

Parker, Ron (HL7 Canada)

Pech, Brian (Kaiser Permanente)

Peters, Melva (HL7 Canada)

Pool, Ken (OZ Systems)

Popat, Amit (Epic)

Porter, Donna (Gateway Community College)

Powles, Patricia (Dept. of Veterans Affairs)

Price, Eli (Arizona Dept of Health Services)

Probst, Penny (Highmark)

Quinn, John (Accenture)

Ramasamy, Karuppannan

Raup, Gordon (Datuit, LLC)

Reed-Fourquet, Lori (e-HealthSign, LLC)

Reeves, Dianne (National Cancer Institute)

Reite, Toril (Helse Vest IKT)

Rhodes, Bryn

Rhodes, Harry (American Health Information Management Association)

Riehl, Virginia (Virginia Riehl)

Ritter, John

Roberts, John (Tennessee Department of Health)

Robertson, Scott (Kaiser Permanente)

Robinson, Joshua (Valley Hope Association)

Rosner, Martin (Philips Healthcare)

Rossman, Michael (Kaiser Permanente)

Rowed, David (VAMC Clinic)

Rubin, Ken (Hewlett-Packard Enterprises Services)

Rud, Dmytro (Roche Diagnostics International Ltd.)

russian, paolo (TBS Group)

Ryan, Sarah

Sabutsch, Stefan (HL7 Austria)

Saele, Line (Helse Vest IKT)

Salyards, Kenneth (SAMHSA)

Sarbadhikari, Suptendra (HL7 India)

Savage, Rob (Rob Savage Consulting)

Schluter, Paul (GE Healthcare)

Scichilone, Rita (American Health Information Management Association)

Scott, Philip (HL7 UK)

Sekar, Vin (NEHTA)

Shabo, Amnon (IBM)

Shafarman, Mark (Shafarman Consulting)

Shakir, AbdulMalik (City of Hope National Medical Center)

Shanbhag, Avinash (HHS/ONC/Standards and Interoperability)

Shanbhag, Nandan (American College of Cardiology)

Shaver, Dave (Corepoint Health)

Sheridan, John (eHealth Data Solutions, LLC)

Shinoda, Hidenori (HL7 Japan Voter #8)

Shorey, Laurence (Blue Cross Blue Shield of South Carolina)

Smith, Daniel (Apelon, Inc.)

Smithies, Rik (HL7 UK)

Snelick, Robert (National Institute of Standards and Technology)

Solomon, Harry (GE Healthcare)

Sottara, Davide

Spears, Corey (Medicity, Inc.)

Spellman, Lisa (AHIMA)

Spiro, Shelly (Pharmacy e-HIT Collaborative)

Stancl, Craig (Mayo Clinic)

Staudenmaier, Greg (U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs)

Stechishin, Andy (CANA Software & Services Ltd.)

Stephens, Diana (Health Level Seven International)

Stevens Love, Helen (HL7 Canada)

Stuart, Sandra (Kaiser Permanente)

Sturges, Artrina (AZ Dept of Health Services)

Suarez, Walter (Kaiser Permanente)

Sundaram-Stukel, David (Epic)

Sundareswaran, Sumesh (Lantana Consulting Group)

Swegle, Chuck (GE Healthcare)

Syed, Asif (American Medical Association)

Takasaka, Sadamu (HL7 Japan)

Tanji, Natsuki (HL7 Japan Voter #9)

Taylor, Lisa (American Health Information Management Association)

Taylor, Sheryl (Booz Allen Hamilton)

Thompson, Sue (National Council for Prescription Drug Programs)

Thoreson, Richard (SAMHSA)

Thraen, Iona (Apelon)

Ting, Jeffrey (Systems Made Simple)

Torres, Ellen

Toyoda, Ken (HL7 Japan Voter #5 - HCI Inc.)

Tripp, Edward (Edward S Tripp and Associates, Inc.)

Tushan, Michael (Lantana Consulting Group)

Ullman-Cullere, Mollie (Partners HealthCare System, Inc.)

van Campen, Michael (Gordon Point Informatics Ltd.)

Van der Zel, Michael (HL7 Netherlands)

Van Dyke, Patricia (Delta Dental Plans Association)

Van Hentenryck, Karen (Health Level Seven International)

van Stijn, Tessa (NICTIZ Nat.ICT.Inst.Healthc.Netherlands)

Vastagh, Stephen (DICOM-MITA-NEMA)

Velezis, Marti (Sonrisa Consulting)

Volp, Roger (Dept. of Health Services)

Vreeman, Daniel (Regenstrief Institute, Inc.)

Walden, Anita (Duke Translational Medicine Institute)

Walker, D. Mead (Mead Walker Consulting)

Wang, Lijun

Ward, Steven (Eli Lilly and Company)

Weida, Tony (Apelon)

West, Chana (Health Services Advisory Group)

Wetherby, Kathryn (SAMHSA)

Whicker, James (Kaiser Permanente)

Whitby, Jonathan (Vital (Toshiba))

White, Chris (Thrasys)

White, Kelly (CSC)

Wiedmeyer, Melissa

Wiley, J. S. (Draeger Medical Systems, Inc.)

Wilgus, Rebecca (Duke Translational Medicine Institute)

Williams, Patricia (Edith Cowan University)

Williamson, Michelle (National Center for Health Statistics/CDC)

Wolfe, Crystal (Abbott)

Wood, Grant (Intermountain Healthcare)

Woznica, Darek

Wrightson, Ann (HL7 UK Voter #8)

Yencha, Bob (Lantana Consulting Group)

Young, Troy (ADP AdvancedMD, Inc.)

Zeller, Gregory (American Dental Association)

Zupan, Alex (TBS Group)