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'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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'''OO Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2037) '''
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<br/>
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Sub bullet #1 - When does OO need a Wrappers Facilitator for their Composite Order project?  By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #38?
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<br/>
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Patrick: Depends on if BF project has Wrappers requirements<br/>
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Jane:  Since BF is only being balloted at the canonical definition, the canonical definition is being balloted this current cycle, and reconciliation and IG work will follow that.  Hence, at a minimum, it would be May 2012.<br/>
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Patrick:  Needs MnM artifact definition input.  OO doesn’t need a Wrappers Facilitator.<br/>
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<br/>
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Austin:  OO doesn’t need a Wrappers facilitator, they need wrappers for the CO static model.  Hence the coordination is a need to have wrappers in place.
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<br/><br/>
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SUMMARY:<br/>
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OO has no need for Wrappers Facilitator<br/>
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<br/>
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Rewrite this coordination to be: Artifact Definition coordinates with InM project for Wrappers (InM and MnM)<br/>
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The output will be Wrappers draft and Wrappers final, and will be a coordination between.<br/>
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<br/>
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OO will use the Wrappers draft and Wrappers final (OO and InM)<br/>
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<br/>
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Sub Bullet #2 - What is OO’s target date for creating the functional profile for composite order and lab order<br/>
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Functional Profile won’t be ready to ballot by Jan 2012.<br/>
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Targeting May 2012<br/>
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<br/>
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Sub bullet #3 - What is OO’s target date for Updating generator to create the new technical artifacts for BF?<br/>
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Austin:  No sooner than having a SAIF IG for the BF.<br/>
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Patrick:  From a tooling perspective, it takes a long time for this work.  Probably a 2013/2014 timeframe.  In the meantime, until the generator is ready, manual work will create the technical artifacts.<br/>
 +
Jane:  Another dependency is that there will be other balloted items coming out of the the SAIF IG, and there are other items on the tooling priority list before getting to the BF work.<br/>
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Austin:  The generator won’t be on the critical path for moving forward.<br/>
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<br/>
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sub bullet #4  - When does OO plan on balloting the Composite Order project?<br/>
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Patrick:  We will be ready to ballot traditional artifacts for Jan 2012 (Static Model and dynamic model, etc).<br/>
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<br/>
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Sub bullet #5 - When will OO produce schemas in the OO Composite Order project?<br/>
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Patrick: The constraint is that there are few resources that can create the schemas.  OO will need to work with MnM and Tooling to create the schemas.<br/>
 +
Austin:  Will need to identify who the resource is.<br/>
 +
Patrick:  Dependant on the Artifact Definition project.  Is computable required for 2012?  <br/>
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Patrick: Jan 2012 will be tough to meet but perhaps possible.  Keep as Jan 2012.<br/>
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<br/>
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Add New Coordination Item:<br/>
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Austin:  OO and Publishing – will items be balloted via normal V3 process or as a PDF<br/>
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<br/>
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Sub bullet #6 - When does OO need a SOA Facilitator for their Composite Order project?<br/>
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Patrick:  Has needed one from the beginning.  Perhaps the best mechanism is for OO to finish the RMIMs (going to ballot in January 2012), and then engage a SOA facilitator for items worked on to be balloted in May 2012.<br/>
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Hence, keep the target date as Jan 2012.<br/>
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<br/>
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sub bullet #7 - Does OO or MnM think new fields and/or classes will be needed to support the new Behavioral Framework?<br/>
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<br/>
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Patrick: answer is definitely yes for BF<br/>
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Patrick: CO will not have any new fields; OO doesn’t have anything special.<br/>
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<br/>
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Austin: What OO needs is a draft implementation of the BF and a final implementation of the BF, which is part of the SAIF IG project by MnM<br/>
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<br/>
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'''MnM Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2038)''' <br/>
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Lloyd McKenzie updated 2038 with a status update.<br/>
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<br/>
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'''Structured Docs Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2038)''' <br/>
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Austin guessed May 2012, but will discuss further with Struc Docs and PA in San Diego<br/>
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<br/>
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'''OO/CBCC/Security/Structured Docs Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2040) '''<br/>
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This item is more of a dependency than a coordination item.<br/>
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Patrick:  None of the groups will know enough until MnM finishes the draft of the Artifacts.  <br/>
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Austin: This task is dependant upon on project 798 and MnM finishing the artifact definition.<br/>
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Are we having a call next week, Sept 7?<br/>
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Cancel next week’s call<br/>
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Adjourned 10:59 AM Eastern Time<br/>
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''Adjourned 10:50 AM Eastern Time

Revision as of 16:20, 30 September 2011

Agenda

  1. Brief (1-2 minutes) SAIF AP Project Status Updates (progress made and next steps)
    1. Preparation of SAIF Book for Informative Ballot (ArB)
    2. Wrappers requirements determination (InM)
    3. SAIF Implementation Guide (MnM)
    4. SAIF Artifact Definition (MnM)
    5. Behavioral Framework (OO)
    6. Composite Order (OO)
    7. Lab Order Template (OO)
    8. SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Pjt Services)
    9. CDA R3 Project (Struc Docs)
    10. Quality Dashboard Progress (Publishing)
    11. Cookbook for Security Considerations (Security)
      1. Tracker 1945 - How should we go about having the Security Cookbook integrate within the OO CO and CDA R3 projects?
  2. Work on the RASCI charts for the SAIF sub projects (Haddorff)
  3. SAIF and Sound White paper (Haddorff)
  4. Update from the Tuesday Q3 CDA R3 Meeting (Kreisler)
    1. Tracker 1939 had the following from Calvin Beebe:
    2. The Structured Documents WG would like to host a session at the Sept WGM on CDA R3 and SAIF considerations. We currently have the session planned for Tuesday Q3, if your committee or members from your committee could attend this session that would be great. Given the large number of committees and their interest in the CDA R3 efforts underway, we thought that a joint session with ITS, M&M, Tooling and Publishing would be the best venue to discuss this topic. Please advise if your committee will be joining us for this session and I will post their participation on the HL7 Meeting Calendar.
  6. Housekeeping
    1. Sept 21 call -- keep or cancel?
    2. Continue calls on Wednesdays at 10am or change?
    3. Next WGM Needs
    4. Upcoming vacation schedules/impacts to upcoming calls

Meeting Attendees

X=Present on Call

Facilitator Austin Kreisler Note taker(s) David Hamill
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Austin Kreisler TSC Chair
X Woody Beeler Beeler Consulting
X David Hamill HL7 HQ / Program Manager
X Anil Luhtra HL7 Canada
X Frank Ploeg HL7 Netherlands
X Andy Bond NEHTA
X David Hulbers COH
X Stacy Berger City of Hope
X RIki Ohira Booz Allen Hamilton
X Lorraine Constable Composite Order Pjt \ OO Behavioral Framework Pjt
X Patrick Loyd OO Work Group / Composite Order Pjt
X Rick Haddorff Project Services WG / SAIF Pilot Coordination Pjt
X Brian Davis 3rd Millenium
X David Parker Evolvent
X Chan Hock Yan HL7 Singapore
X Mark Shafarman Shafarman Consulting
X Zhijing Liu Siemens
Freida Hall Project Services WG
Quorum Requirements Met: Yes

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:
OO Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2037)
Sub bullet #1 - When does OO need a Wrappers Facilitator for their Composite Order project? By Jan 2012 according to the target date in project #38?
Patrick: Depends on if BF project has Wrappers requirements
Jane: Since BF is only being balloted at the canonical definition, the canonical definition is being balloted this current cycle, and reconciliation and IG work will follow that. Hence, at a minimum, it would be May 2012.
Patrick: Needs MnM artifact definition input. OO doesn’t need a Wrappers Facilitator.

Austin: OO doesn’t need a Wrappers facilitator, they need wrappers for the CO static model. Hence the coordination is a need to have wrappers in place.

SUMMARY:
OO has no need for Wrappers Facilitator

Rewrite this coordination to be: Artifact Definition coordinates with InM project for Wrappers (InM and MnM)
The output will be Wrappers draft and Wrappers final, and will be a coordination between.

OO will use the Wrappers draft and Wrappers final (OO and InM)

Sub Bullet #2 - What is OO’s target date for creating the functional profile for composite order and lab order
Functional Profile won’t be ready to ballot by Jan 2012.
Targeting May 2012

Sub bullet #3 - What is OO’s target date for Updating generator to create the new technical artifacts for BF?
Austin: No sooner than having a SAIF IG for the BF.
Patrick: From a tooling perspective, it takes a long time for this work. Probably a 2013/2014 timeframe. In the meantime, until the generator is ready, manual work will create the technical artifacts.
Jane: Another dependency is that there will be other balloted items coming out of the the SAIF IG, and there are other items on the tooling priority list before getting to the BF work.
Austin: The generator won’t be on the critical path for moving forward.

sub bullet #4 - When does OO plan on balloting the Composite Order project?
Patrick: We will be ready to ballot traditional artifacts for Jan 2012 (Static Model and dynamic model, etc).

Sub bullet #5 - When will OO produce schemas in the OO Composite Order project?
Patrick: The constraint is that there are few resources that can create the schemas. OO will need to work with MnM and Tooling to create the schemas.
Austin: Will need to identify who the resource is.
Patrick: Dependant on the Artifact Definition project. Is computable required for 2012?
Patrick: Jan 2012 will be tough to meet but perhaps possible. Keep as Jan 2012.

Add New Coordination Item:
Austin: OO and Publishing – will items be balloted via normal V3 process or as a PDF

Sub bullet #6 - When does OO need a SOA Facilitator for their Composite Order project?
Patrick: Has needed one from the beginning. Perhaps the best mechanism is for OO to finish the RMIMs (going to ballot in January 2012), and then engage a SOA facilitator for items worked on to be balloted in May 2012.
Hence, keep the target date as Jan 2012.

sub bullet #7 - Does OO or MnM think new fields and/or classes will be needed to support the new Behavioral Framework?

Patrick: answer is definitely yes for BF
Patrick: CO will not have any new fields; OO doesn’t have anything special.

Austin: What OO needs is a draft implementation of the BF and a final implementation of the BF, which is part of the SAIF IG project by MnM

MnM Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2038)
Lloyd McKenzie updated 2038 with a status update.


Structured Docs Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2038)
Austin guessed May 2012, but will discuss further with Struc Docs and PA in San Diego

OO/CBCC/Security/Structured Docs Questions from SAIF Pilot Coordination Project (Tracker 2040)
This item is more of a dependency than a coordination item.
Patrick: None of the groups will know enough until MnM finishes the draft of the Artifacts.
Austin: This task is dependant upon on project 798 and MnM finishing the artifact definition.

Are we having a call next week, Sept 7?
Cancel next week’s call

Adjourned 10:59 AM Eastern Time



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Adjourned 10:50 AM Eastern Time

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