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==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
 
'''Discussion'''
 
'''Discussion'''
# Rule-out; history of; family history diagnoses: how are these distinguished from actual diagnoses in claims data?
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# Rule-out; personal history of; family history diagnoses: how are these distinguished from actual diagnoses in claims data?
 
#*Issue: Inaccurate coding of these types of diagnoses may cause erroneous diagnoses to be attributed to patients
 
#*Issue: Inaccurate coding of these types of diagnoses may cause erroneous diagnoses to be attributed to patients
## Diagnosis codes used for ordering diagnostic services may claims skew data  
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## Inappropriate use of ICD-9 diagnosis codes for ordering diagnostic services may claims skew data
 
##*When clinicians create requisitions for diagnostic tests (lab tests, radiologic studies, etc.), they are required to supply “reason for test”.   
 
##*When clinicians create requisitions for diagnostic tests (lab tests, radiologic studies, etc.), they are required to supply “reason for test”.   
 
##*Clinicians are not are not trained in the subtleties of proper coding practice, and therefore may use an unconfirmed diagnosis rather than signs and symptoms as the reason for test.   
 
##*Clinicians are not are not trained in the subtleties of proper coding practice, and therefore may use an unconfirmed diagnosis rather than signs and symptoms as the reason for test.   
 
##**This results in ICD-9 codes for unconfirmed diagnoses appearing in claims data rather than the appropriate codes, since all billable services are associated with the encounter which generated the order
 
##**This results in ICD-9 codes for unconfirmed diagnoses appearing in claims data rather than the appropriate codes, since all billable services are associated with the encounter which generated the order
##*When diagnostic testing yields abnormal results but they are not definitive for a specific condition or disease, and the patient does not have clinical signs or symptoms, codes from categories 790 – 796 should be used to indicate non-specific abnormal findings. These codes will support the medical necessity for follow up encounters or additional testing to confirm or rule out a condition
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##*''Symptoms, Signs, and Ill-defined conditions'' should be coded from Section 780.0 - 799.9
##*Section 780.0 - 799.9 – ''Symptoms, Signs, and Ill-defined conditions'' or V-code – ''Supplementary classification of factors influencing health status and contact with health services (V01-V89)''
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##*When diagnostic testing yields abnormal results but they are not definitive for a specific condition or disease, and the patient does not have clinical signs or symptoms, codes from categories 790 – 796 (Nonspecific Abnormal Findings) should be used to indicate non-specific abnormal findings. These codes support the medical necessity for follow up encounters or additional testing to confirm or rule out a condition
## V01-V89 category deals with occasions when circumstances other than a disease or injury classifiable to categories 001-999 (the main part of ICD) are recorded as "diagnoses" or "problems." This can arise mainly in three ways:
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##* The V-code category – ''Supplementary classification of factors influencing health status and contact with health services (V01-V89) deals with occasions when circumstances other than a disease or injury classifiable to categories 001-999 (the main part of ICD) are recorded as "diagnoses" or "problems." This can arise mainly in three ways:
 
##*a) When a person who is not currently sick encounters the health services for some specific purpose, such as to act as a donor of an organ or tissue, to receive prophylactic vaccination, or to discuss a problem which is in itself not a disease or injury. This will be a fairly rare occurrence among hospital inpatients, but will be relatively more common among hospital outpatients and patients of family practitioners, health clinics, etc.
 
##*a) When a person who is not currently sick encounters the health services for some specific purpose, such as to act as a donor of an organ or tissue, to receive prophylactic vaccination, or to discuss a problem which is in itself not a disease or injury. This will be a fairly rare occurrence among hospital inpatients, but will be relatively more common among hospital outpatients and patients of family practitioners, health clinics, etc.
 
##*b) When a person with a known disease or injury, whether it is current or resolving, encounters the health care system for a specific treatment of that disease or injury (e.g., dialysis for renal disease; chemotherapy for malignancy; cast change).
 
##*b) When a person with a known disease or injury, whether it is current or resolving, encounters the health care system for a specific treatment of that disease or injury (e.g., dialysis for renal disease; chemotherapy for malignancy; cast change).

Revision as of 00:04, 7 August 2011

Community-Based Collaborative Care Working Group Meeting

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Attendees

Agenda

  1. (5 min) Roll Call & Accept Agenda
  2. (25 min) SHIPPS Domain Analysis Model discussion
    • eMeasure implementation approach
    • Rule-out; history of; family history diagnoses: how are these distinguished from actual diagnoses in claims data?
    • Difference in how diagnosis codes are captured depending on "encounter type" (“inpatient” versus outpatient/non-inpatient)
    • Vocabulary binding and eMeasure value sets
  3. (30 min) HL7Confidentiality Code Project

Minutes

Discussion

  1. Rule-out; personal history of; family history diagnoses: how are these distinguished from actual diagnoses in claims data?
    • Issue: Inaccurate coding of these types of diagnoses may cause erroneous diagnoses to be attributed to patients
    1. Inappropriate use of ICD-9 diagnosis codes for ordering diagnostic services may claims skew data
      • When clinicians create requisitions for diagnostic tests (lab tests, radiologic studies, etc.), they are required to supply “reason for test”.
      • Clinicians are not are not trained in the subtleties of proper coding practice, and therefore may use an unconfirmed diagnosis rather than signs and symptoms as the reason for test.
        • This results in ICD-9 codes for unconfirmed diagnoses appearing in claims data rather than the appropriate codes, since all billable services are associated with the encounter which generated the order
      • Symptoms, Signs, and Ill-defined conditions should be coded from Section 780.0 - 799.9
      • When diagnostic testing yields abnormal results but they are not definitive for a specific condition or disease, and the patient does not have clinical signs or symptoms, codes from categories 790 – 796 (Nonspecific Abnormal Findings) should be used to indicate non-specific abnormal findings. These codes support the medical necessity for follow up encounters or additional testing to confirm or rule out a condition
      • The V-code category – Supplementary classification of factors influencing health status and contact with health services (V01-V89) deals with occasions when circumstances other than a disease or injury classifiable to categories 001-999 (the main part of ICD) are recorded as "diagnoses" or "problems." This can arise mainly in three ways:
      • a) When a person who is not currently sick encounters the health services for some specific purpose, such as to act as a donor of an organ or tissue, to receive prophylactic vaccination, or to discuss a problem which is in itself not a disease or injury. This will be a fairly rare occurrence among hospital inpatients, but will be relatively more common among hospital outpatients and patients of family practitioners, health clinics, etc.
      • b) When a person with a known disease or injury, whether it is current or resolving, encounters the health care system for a specific treatment of that disease or injury (e.g., dialysis for renal disease; chemotherapy for malignancy; cast change).
      • c) When some circumstance or problem is present which influences the person's health status but is not in itself a current illness or injury. Such factors may be elicited during population surveys, when the person may or may not be currently sick, or be recorded as an additional factor to be borne in mind when the person is receiving care for some current illness or injury classifiable to categories 001-999. In this circumstance, the V code should be used only as a supplementary code and should not be the one selected for use in primary, single cause tabulations. Examples of these circumstances are a personal history of certain diseases, or a person with an artificial heart valve in situ.
    2. Inpatient versus Outpatient coding
      • For inpatient encounters, codes that describe symptoms and signs (780.0 - 799.9, V01-V89), as opposed to diagnoses, are acceptable for reporting purposes when a related definitive diagnosis has not been established (confirmed) by the provider
      • Unconfirmed diagnoses may not be included in outpatient encounter claims; however, the sign, symptom or condition that instigated the encounter should be coded.
        • It is likely there are a number of codes in claims data that are mis-coded because they were used in lieu of the appropriate unconfirmed/rule-out diagnosis codes.
  2. ICD-9-CM Limitations
    • Each unique ICD-9-CM diagnosis code may be reported only once for an encounter. This applies to bilateral conditions or two different conditions classified to the same ICD-9-CM diagnosis code.

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