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==Agenda==
 
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*Approve [[MnM_Minutes_CC_20110316| Minutes Prior Meeting on 3/16]]
 
*Approve [[MnM_Minutes_CC_20110316| Minutes Prior Meeting on 3/16]]
 
*Over-looked Core Principles Ballot Reconciliation Item
 
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==Attendees==
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Kreisler, Savage, Beeler, Stechishin, Seppala, Pech, McKenzie
 
==Approve [[MnM_Minutes_CC_20110316| Minutes Prior Meeting on 3/16]]==
 
==Approve [[MnM_Minutes_CC_20110316| Minutes Prior Meeting on 3/16]]==
 
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MInutes approved - Kreisler/Seppala unanimious
 
==MISSED Core Principles Ballot Items - Reconciliation==
 
==MISSED Core Principles Ballot Items - Reconciliation==
 
Two items were missed in the final processing of [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/ballots/2010SEP/reconciliation/recon_v3_cppv3models_r1_n4_2010sep.xls Ballot Reconciliation for Core Principles].
 
Two items were missed in the final processing of [http://www.hl7.org/documentcenter/public/ballots/2010SEP/reconciliation/recon_v3_cppv3models_r1_n4_2010sep.xls Ballot Reconciliation for Core Principles].
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Items 188 and 189 - Have a "B" comment grouping (meaning Beeler should have dealt with them). They were marked that way because they had '''no chapter designation''' and talked about "The model...".  When reviewed them, we realized they were talking about the "Vocabulary Model" and  marked them to the "Vocab Work Group", but failed to tell Vocab.  
 
Items 188 and 189 - Have a "B" comment grouping (meaning Beeler should have dealt with them). They were marked that way because they had '''no chapter designation''' and talked about "The model...".  When reviewed them, we realized they were talking about the "Vocabulary Model" and  marked them to the "Vocab Work Group", but failed to tell Vocab.  
 
===Item 188 [at 5/0.0] (B Neg-Mj) 0/0/0===
 
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'''Moved/Seconded/Vote McKenzie, Savage 6-0-0'''
 
=====Voter Comment=====
 
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The model should support cross-mapping terms that mean the same thing within a coding system and across coding systems.
 
The model should support cross-mapping terms that mean the same thing within a coding system and across coding systems.
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'''Moved/Seconded/Vote McKenzie, Savage 6-0-0'''
 
=====Voter Comment=====
 
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The model should support the ability to subset a group of concepts.  For example, I have a concept of Specimen Type and a subordinate grouping of these that represent a specimen obtained from a patient (i.e. blood, urine liver tissue etc.) and genetic sample type extracted (i.e. RNA, DNA, mRNA, rDNA, GDNA, snRNA …).
 
The model should support the ability to subset a group of concepts.  For example, I have a concept of Specimen Type and a subordinate grouping of these that represent a specimen obtained from a patient (i.e. blood, urine liver tissue etc.) and genetic sample type extracted (i.e. RNA, DNA, mRNA, rDNA, GDNA, snRNA …).

Revision as of 18:56, 26 March 2011


M&M Conference Call 4:00PM Eastern Time (Date above)

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Agenda

Attendees

Kreisler, Savage, Beeler, Stechishin, Seppala, Pech, McKenzie

Approve Minutes Prior Meeting on 3/16

MInutes approved - Kreisler/Seppala unanimious

MISSED Core Principles Ballot Items - Reconciliation

Two items were missed in the final processing of Ballot Reconciliation for Core Principles.

Items 188 and 189 - Have a "B" comment grouping (meaning Beeler should have dealt with them). They were marked that way because they had no chapter designation and talked about "The model...". When reviewed them, we realized they were talking about the "Vocabulary Model" and marked them to the "Vocab Work Group", but failed to tell Vocab.

Item 188 [at 5/0.0] (B Neg-Mj) 0/0/0

Moved/Seconded/Vote McKenzie, Savage 6-0-0

Voter Comment

The model should support cross-mapping terms that mean the same thing within a coding system and across coding systems.

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Not persuasive with mod"

We propose to include the following in 5.3.3 "The vocabulary model presented here is a high-level model reflecting only those relationships defined in this specification. The complete vocabulary model, developed in support of Common Terminology Service Release 2, and the HL7 Model Interchange Format (MIF) can be reviewed as part of the MIF Informative Document . <LINK this to the MIF document>"

To the voter - the complete model is much richer and includes both properties and relationships that allow the sorts of functionality that you cite.

Item 189 [at 5/0.0] (B Neg-Mj) 0/0/0

Moved/Seconded/Vote McKenzie, Savage 6-0-0

Voter Comment

The model should support the ability to subset a group of concepts. For example, I have a concept of Specimen Type and a subordinate grouping of these that represent a specimen obtained from a patient (i.e. blood, urine liver tissue etc.) and genetic sample type extracted (i.e. RNA, DNA, mRNA, rDNA, GDNA, snRNA …).

Disposition & Disposition Comment - "Not persuasive with mod"

As preceding

Management of CMETs - proposal from TSC (Austin)

Review Action Items For MnM

Note the following list, and amend the list to assign selected items:

Adjournment