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==Tuesday, April 1, 2008== | ==Tuesday, April 1, 2008== | ||
| + | |||
| + | ===Attendees=== | ||
| + | * '''In person:''' Nelson (MnM), Van Hentenryck, Klein (Vocab), Seppala (PA), Walker (RCRIM), Loyd (OO), Hausam (Lab), George, Raiford, Parker (CDS), Stewart (INM), McKenzie (International), Beeler | ||
| + | * '''Online:''' Kreisler, Dolin (SD), Glover (Pharmacy), James, Eckerson (PHER), De Jong | ||
| + | |||
===Brief Summary of Harmonization Results=== | ===Brief Summary of Harmonization Results=== | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| − | || '''ID''' | + | || '''ID'''|| '''File Name'''|| '''Result''' |
| − | || '''File Name''' | + | |- |
| − | || '''Result''' | + | ||010102 |
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_RIM_MEDREC_netherlands_2_SubsAdmin as Procedure_20080306041729.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020102 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_IdentifierReliability.VER definition_20080302063228.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020103 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_PostalAddressUse.NameRepresentationUse definition_20080302183210.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020104 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_EntityNamePartType.SFX definition_20080302183156.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020105 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_MNM_grahame_grieve_UpdateMode_20080302195151.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020106 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_NullFlavor_20080302195133.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020107 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_EntityNamePartQualifier definition_20080302183140.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
|- | |- | ||
| − | || | + | ||020108 |
| − | || | + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_EntityNameUse definition_20080302185414.doc |
| − | || | + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved |
|- | |- | ||
| − | || | + | ||020109 |
| − | || | + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_PostalAddressUse.SRCH definition_20080302185254.doc |
| − | || | + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved |
|- | |- | ||
| − | || | + | ||020113 |
| − | || | + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_MediaType.PlainText definition_20080302062344.doc |
| − | || | + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved |
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020121 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_LAB_robert_hausam_x_LabSpecimenCollectionProviders _20080316235831.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020122 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_LAB_robert_hausam_PartOfWholeRelationship_20080302232915.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #000099" |Withdrawn | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||020123 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_LAB_robert_hausam_BatteryClassDefinition_20080316224613.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||030100 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_BasisOfStrength_20080303003543.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||030101 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_NoCommittee_g_schadow_ActClassCodes_20080316105135.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #990000" |Rejected | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||030102 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_ActCode_20080316105048.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #000099" |Duplicate of 030101 | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||030103 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_TherapeuticEquivalenceRoleCode_20080316115132.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #000099" |Tabled | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||030104 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_ActRelationshipDocument_20080316110424.doc | ||
| + | | style="color: #009900" |Approved | ||
| + | |- | ||
| + | ||030105 | ||
| + | ||2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_ActRelationshipDocument_20080303002827.wbk | ||
| + | | style="color: #000099" |Duplicate of 030105 | ||
|} | |} | ||
| + | |||
| + | |||
| + | ===Other Notes=== | ||
| + | The issue of value set management arose. The following was informally agreed to: | ||
| + | * Value sets that do not have adequate definitions cannot be changed. | ||
| + | * HL7 will capture a responsible organization for every value set created. | ||
| + | |||
==Wednesday, April 2, 2008== | ==Wednesday, April 2, 2008== | ||
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===Attendees=== | ===Attendees=== | ||
* '''In person:''' Dale Nelson, Ted Klein, Gregg Seppala, Mead Walker, Patrick Loyd, Rob Hausam, Lloyd McKenzie, Joyce George, Robin Raiford, Sandy Stuart, Sara Ryan, Woody Beeler, Craig Parker | * '''In person:''' Dale Nelson, Ted Klein, Gregg Seppala, Mead Walker, Patrick Loyd, Rob Hausam, Lloyd McKenzie, Joyce George, Robin Raiford, Sandy Stuart, Sara Ryan, Woody Beeler, Craig Parker | ||
| − | * '''Online:''' Patricia Grimes, Ioana Singureanu, Russ Hamm | + | * '''Online:''' Patricia Grimes, Ioana Singureanu, Russ Hamm, Austin Kreisler |
| + | |||
| + | ===Discussion=== | ||
| + | * How can we make it easier for committees to submit proposals? | ||
| + | ** Wizards were discussed. It was generally agreed that they can be helpful, but they are seldom capable of handling the more difficult cases. | ||
| + | ** There was discussion about creating several different submission forms, tailored to assisting with the submission of different types of proposals. | ||
| + | ** There was discussion about more human assistance from HQ in the submission processing (triage, checking for complexity, etc.). | ||
| + | * How can we make it easier to process the approved proposals in a timely fashion? | ||
| + | ** The better form that the original submission is in, the easier it is to process. | ||
| + | ** More structured submission mechanisms lead to more automated processing of the changes. | ||
| + | ===Agreements=== | ||
| + | * Eventual goal is a "tool" (or suite thereof) that allows editing of vocabulary content by the membership, that can then be validated, summarized and applied to the vocabulary after approval and builds upon the established base of capability. | ||
| + | * First baby-step: Develop a set of '''simple''' forms with surrounding instructions and style guides for additions or changes of: | ||
| + | ** code systems | ||
| + | ** coded concepts | ||
| + | ** concept domains | ||
| + | ** value set definitions | ||
| + | ** context binding statements | ||
| + | * Use the ballot's HTML representation as a starting point. | ||
| + | * The surrounding instructions will define dependencies between the forms. | ||
| + | * The forms are positioned as aids to the committees in preparing and "debating" their proposals. They can also feed the update process directly, whether manual (now), or tool-based (future). | ||
| + | * Bind the forms into the current coversheet/proposal documents, using a common proposal identifier. | ||
| − | === | + | ===Tutorial at the Phoenix WGM (Q4 Sunday)=== |
| − | * | + | * Audiences: |
| + | ** Committee designer seeking to extend our models (RIM, class codes, etc.) | ||
| + | ** Committee designer seeking to produce a finer grained constraint than they can find in the vocabulary -- including domain specific constraints and value sets. | ||
| + | ** Users or realms requiring a content binding to a defined value set (including, over time, a value set defined and maintained external to HL7, but that supports a CTS API). | ||
| + | ** Implementor trying to determine what codes, value sets, etc., they need in order to build and instance. | ||
Latest revision as of 01:44, 21 May 2010
Contents
Tuesday, April 1, 2008
Attendees
- In person: Nelson (MnM), Van Hentenryck, Klein (Vocab), Seppala (PA), Walker (RCRIM), Loyd (OO), Hausam (Lab), George, Raiford, Parker (CDS), Stewart (INM), McKenzie (International), Beeler
- Online: Kreisler, Dolin (SD), Glover (Pharmacy), James, Eckerson (PHER), De Jong
Brief Summary of Harmonization Results
| ID | File Name | Result |
| 010102 | 2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_RIM_MEDREC_netherlands_2_SubsAdmin as Procedure_20080306041729.doc | Approved |
| 020102 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_IdentifierReliability.VER definition_20080302063228.doc | Approved |
| 020103 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_PostalAddressUse.NameRepresentationUse definition_20080302183210.doc | Approved |
| 020104 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_EntityNamePartType.SFX definition_20080302183156.doc | Approved |
| 020105 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_MNM_grahame_grieve_UpdateMode_20080302195151.doc | Approved |
| 020106 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_NullFlavor_20080302195133.doc | Approved |
| 020107 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_EntityNamePartQualifier definition_20080302183140.doc | Approved |
| 020108 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_EntityNameUse definition_20080302185414.doc | Approved |
| 020109 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_PostalAddressUse.SRCH definition_20080302185254.doc | Approved |
| 020113 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_INM_grahame_grieve_MediaType.PlainText definition_20080302062344.doc | Approved |
| 020121 | 2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_LAB_robert_hausam_x_LabSpecimenCollectionProviders _20080316235831.doc | Approved |
| 020122 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_LAB_robert_hausam_PartOfWholeRelationship_20080302232915.doc | Withdrawn |
| 020123 | 2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_LAB_robert_hausam_BatteryClassDefinition_20080316224613.doc | Approved |
| 030100 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_BasisOfStrength_20080303003543.doc | Approved |
| 030101 | 2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_NoCommittee_g_schadow_ActClassCodes_20080316105135.doc | Rejected |
| 030102 | 2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_ActCode_20080316105048.doc | Duplicate of 030101 |
| 030103 | 2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_TherapeuticEquivalenceRoleCode_20080316115132.doc | Tabled |
| 030104 | 2008Apr_HARM_PROPOSAL_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_ActRelationshipDocument_20080316110424.doc | Approved |
| 030105 | 2008Apr_HARM_COVERPAGE_VOCAB_RCRIM_g_schadow_ActRelationshipDocument_20080303002827.wbk | Duplicate of 030105 |
Other Notes
The issue of value set management arose. The following was informally agreed to:
- Value sets that do not have adequate definitions cannot be changed.
- HL7 will capture a responsible organization for every value set created.
Wednesday, April 2, 2008
Attendees
- In person: Dale Nelson, Ted Klein, Gregg Seppala, Mead Walker, Patrick Loyd, Rob Hausam, Lloyd McKenzie, Joyce George, Robin Raiford, Sandy Stuart, Sara Ryan, Woody Beeler, Craig Parker
- Online: Patricia Grimes, Ioana Singureanu, Russ Hamm, Austin Kreisler
Discussion
- How can we make it easier for committees to submit proposals?
- Wizards were discussed. It was generally agreed that they can be helpful, but they are seldom capable of handling the more difficult cases.
- There was discussion about creating several different submission forms, tailored to assisting with the submission of different types of proposals.
- There was discussion about more human assistance from HQ in the submission processing (triage, checking for complexity, etc.).
- How can we make it easier to process the approved proposals in a timely fashion?
- The better form that the original submission is in, the easier it is to process.
- More structured submission mechanisms lead to more automated processing of the changes.
Agreements
- Eventual goal is a "tool" (or suite thereof) that allows editing of vocabulary content by the membership, that can then be validated, summarized and applied to the vocabulary after approval and builds upon the established base of capability.
- First baby-step: Develop a set of simple forms with surrounding instructions and style guides for additions or changes of:
- code systems
- coded concepts
- concept domains
- value set definitions
- context binding statements
- Use the ballot's HTML representation as a starting point.
- The surrounding instructions will define dependencies between the forms.
- The forms are positioned as aids to the committees in preparing and "debating" their proposals. They can also feed the update process directly, whether manual (now), or tool-based (future).
- Bind the forms into the current coversheet/proposal documents, using a common proposal identifier.
Tutorial at the Phoenix WGM (Q4 Sunday)
- Audiences:
- Committee designer seeking to extend our models (RIM, class codes, etc.)
- Committee designer seeking to produce a finer grained constraint than they can find in the vocabulary -- including domain specific constraints and value sets.
- Users or realms requiring a content binding to a defined value set (including, over time, a value set defined and maintained external to HL7, but that supports a CTS API).
- Implementor trying to determine what codes, value sets, etc., they need in order to build and instance.
