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#''(15 min)'' '''[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=HL7_May_2018_WGM_AGENDA_-_Cologne,_Germany Security Cologne May WGM Agenda]''' - Kathleen
 
#''(15 min)'' '''[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=HL7_May_2018_WGM_AGENDA_-_Cologne,_Germany Security Cologne May WGM Agenda]''' - Kathleen
  
==Meeting Minutes DRAFT==
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==Meeting Minutes==
 
Chris Shawn, chair
 
Chris Shawn, chair
 
Roll Call, Agenda Review, Meeting Minutes approval
 
Roll Call, Agenda Review, Meeting Minutes approval
  
http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=April_10,_2018_Security_Conference_Call Meeting Minutes Approval (Kathleen/Johnathan)
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http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=April_10,_2018_Security_Conference_Call  
Opposed: none; Abstentions: none; Approved: 12
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* Motion: Meeting Minutes Approval (Kathleen/Johnathan)
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* Opposed: none; Abstentions: none; Approved: 12
  
TF4FA Ballot - Mike
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'''TF4FA Ballot''' - Mike
* time to vote, we're hoping things to go well
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* Time to vote, we are hoping things go well
 
* Ballot is Normative
 
* Ballot is Normative
* Intend to contue with the PSAF charter (also mentioned on CBCP); have started work on Audit volume 3
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* Intend to continue with the PSAF charter (also mentioned on CBCP); have started work on Audit volume 3
** Volume 3 will have elements of life cycle eents and Audit and Provenance
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** Volume 3 will have elements of life cycle events and Audit and Provenance
** A&P are related, the work with did with EHR - Provenance of things an dlifecycle events and audit
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** A&P are related, the work with did with EHR - Provenance of things and lifecycle events and audit
** first thought is to look into block chain technology--signed ledger idea behind that---trust history; we'e already brough up a little of this...we will not get too detailed in it
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** First thought is to look into block chain technology--signed ledger idea behind that---trust history; we’ve already brought up a little of this...we will not get too detailed in it
** we have idea of by September by then t ballot in January - depending on how the current two volumes go with Normative
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** We have idea of by September by then to ballot in January - depending on how the current two volumes go with Normative
  
FHIR Security update _JohnM
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'''FHIR Security update''' -John M
* we are working through the ONC API and seucirty
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* We are working through the ONC API and security
** next item was input validation, agreed to add as an item as a high level punch list on security spec
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** Next item is input validation, agreed to add as an item as a high-level punch list on security spec
** discussion on litmus test to help determine something that rises to the level that we should say something otherwise we will duplicate the exisiting security works--which is not desired
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** Discussion on litmus test to help determine something that rises to the level that we should say something otherwise we will duplicate the existing security works--which is not desired
** is it input validation?
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** We didn’t come up with a good litmus test--but we will add... one for now... when is it something specific to securing FHIR vs we should have some recommendation to use a security framework and have a list of some security frameworks--we haven't yet touched upon (it will have to be a topic) ...
** we didnt' come up with a good litmus test--but we will add... one for now... when is it something specific to securing FHIR vs we should have some recommendation to use a seucrit framework and have a list of some security frameworks--we haven't yet touched upon (it will have to be a topic)...
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**Continuing to work through the ONC paper
**continuing to work through the ONC paper
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* New time is better meeting time 2PM ET (right before this meeting)
* new time is better meeting time 2PM ET (right before this meeting)
 
  
 
Cologne Agenda - Kathleen
 
Cologne Agenda - Kathleen
 
(DRAFT)
 
(DRAFT)
* picking up on themes discussed
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* Produced from themes discussed
* opening Security WG
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* Adjustments made to the Security WGM agenda (discussion)
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* [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=HL7_May_2018_WGM_AGENDA_-_Cologne,_Germany http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=HL7_May_2018_WGM_AGENDA_-_Cologne,_Germany]
* Update on ballot
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* Updates on ballot, TEFCA, GDPR (specifically to review gaps),
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* NOTE: DRAFT, not final
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Meeting adjourned at 1235 Arizona Time  --[[User:Suzannegw|Suzannegw]] ([[User talk:Suzannegw|talk]]) 15:35, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

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Attendees

x Member Name x Member Name x Member Name x Member Name
x John Moehrke Security Co-chair x Kathleen Connor Security Co-chair x Alexander Mense Security Co-chair . Trish Williams Security Co-chair
x Christopher Shawn Security Co-chair x Suzanne Gonzales-Webb x Mike Davis x David Staggs
x Diana Proud-Madruga x Francisco Jauregui x Joe Lamy . Greg Linden
x Rhonna Clark . Grahame Grieve . Johnathan Coleman x [mailto: Matt Blackman, Sequoia]
. Mohammed Jafari x Jim Kretz . Peter Bachman x Dave Silver
. Beth Pumo . Bo Dagnall . Riki Merrick . Theresa Connor

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Agenda

  1. (2 min) Roll Call, Agenda Approval
  2. (5 min) Review and Approval of April 3rd minutes
  3. (5 min) TF4FA Normative Ballot - time to vote - Mike
  4. (15 min) FHIR Security Updates - John
  5. (15 min) Security Cologne May WGM Agenda - Kathleen

Meeting Minutes

Chris Shawn, chair Roll Call, Agenda Review, Meeting Minutes approval

http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=April_10,_2018_Security_Conference_Call

  • Motion: Meeting Minutes Approval (Kathleen/Johnathan)
  • Opposed: none; Abstentions: none; Approved: 12

TF4FA Ballot - Mike

  • Time to vote, we are hoping things go well
  • Ballot is Normative
  • Intend to continue with the PSAF charter (also mentioned on CBCP); have started work on Audit volume 3
    • Volume 3 will have elements of life cycle events and Audit and Provenance
    • A&P are related, the work with did with EHR - Provenance of things and lifecycle events and audit
    • First thought is to look into block chain technology--signed ledger idea behind that---trust history; we’ve already brought up a little of this...we will not get too detailed in it
    • We have idea of by September by then to ballot in January - depending on how the current two volumes go with Normative

FHIR Security update -John M

  • We are working through the ONC API and security
    • Next item is input validation, agreed to add as an item as a high-level punch list on security spec
    • Discussion on litmus test to help determine something that rises to the level that we should say something otherwise we will duplicate the existing security works--which is not desired
    • We didn’t come up with a good litmus test--but we will add... one for now... when is it something specific to securing FHIR vs we should have some recommendation to use a security framework and have a list of some security frameworks--we haven't yet touched upon (it will have to be a topic) ...
    • Continuing to work through the ONC paper
  • New time is better meeting time 2PM ET (right before this meeting)

Cologne Agenda - Kathleen (DRAFT)

Meeting adjourned at 1235 Arizona Time --Suzannegw (talk) 15:35, 10 April 2018 (EDT)