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# objectives
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# attendee agenda items
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## support translation ccda fhir
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# confirm problem statement
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### not too different from any translation
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## transforms across: is this any different from any other transform
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### require explicit direction from WG?
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## transforms within: this is really a condition/observation argument. others? allergy?
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## support translation within FHIR (observation/condition)
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## DL: partition
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### boundary explanation needs to include transform guidance
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# What should ballot deliver a) guidance & best practices, c) normative policy pronouncements, or something in between, like b) recommended patterns?
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### know when questions should imply concerns
 
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#### pregnant yes
 
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#### # ulcers > 0
 
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### other changes?
 
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## detect negation for rules
 
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### refuted or resolved conditions - may be condition- or rule-specific
 
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## know when refuted conditions need to be captured to support rules eg no bleeding disorders
 
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## impede creation of new problems
 
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### minimize abstraction in new specifications
 
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### require WGs to provide xform guidance
 
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# review outline. ideas for improvement
 
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# how to associate capture cases with consumption cases
 
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# confirm problem statement
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## transforms across: is this any different from any other transform
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## transforms within: this is really a condition/observation argument. others? allergy?
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## DL: partition
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# examples
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## George: MU requirement patient has no problems. Implementers may use 'problem' and negation, but text is 'problem' -- a structure vs text issue
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## Emma: STU comment - easy to represent pregnancy, but unclear how to represent 'not pregnant'
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### pregnant code with negation
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### not pregnant code
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### pregnancy question with 'no'
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## Answer unclear. Produce a, maybe b, see how far we can get.
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# Need more 'consumption' cases to cross-reference 'capture' cases
  
 
===Meeting Outcomes===
 
===Meeting Outcomes===

Latest revision as of 20:55, 1 November 2017

Back to Negation Minutes

Minutes

Meeting Information

HL7 PC-CIMI-POC Meeting Minutes

Location: PC call line

Date: 2017-11-01
Time: 11:00-12:00 ET
Facilitator Jay Lyle Note taker(s) Jay Lyle
Attendee Name Affiliation


y Jay Lyle JP Systems
y Emma Jones
y Rob Hausam
y Angela Crovetti
y George Dixon
Richard Esmond
Andrew Haslam
Floyd Eisenberg
Susan Barber

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. attendee agenda items
  2. confirm problem statement
    1. transforms across: is this any different from any other transform
    2. transforms within: this is really a condition/observation argument. others? allergy?
    3. DL: partition
  3. What should ballot deliver a) guidance & best practices, c) normative policy pronouncements, or something in between, like b) recommended patterns?

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Most attendees for orientation, no agenda items
  2. confirm problem statement
    1. transforms across: is this any different from any other transform
    2. transforms within: this is really a condition/observation argument. others? allergy?
    3. DL: partition
  3. examples
    1. George: MU requirement patient has no problems. Implementers may use 'problem' and negation, but text is 'problem' -- a structure vs text issue
    2. Emma: STU comment - easy to represent pregnancy, but unclear how to represent 'not pregnant'
      1. pregnant code with negation
      2. not pregnant code
      3. pregnancy question with 'no'
  4. Should ballot deliver a) guidance & best practices, c) normative policy pronouncements, or something in between, like b) recommended patterns?
    1. Answer unclear. Produce a, maybe b, see how far we can get.
  5. Need more 'consumption' cases to cross-reference 'capture' cases

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
  • review Use Cases for completeness, classification for accuracy (all)


Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Continue review of requirements

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