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===Agenda===
 
===Agenda===
 
'''Agenda Topics''' <br/>
 
'''Agenda Topics''' <br/>
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# tbd
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# Status of SOLOR work
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# timeline for January.
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# Look at archetypes; identify where we expect to see bindings
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# SNOMED paper
  
 
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'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
 
'''Minutes/Conclusions Reached:'''<br/>
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* Review of some of Mark's prospective comments
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# Status of CIMI: withdrawn from September ballot
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** Need to cordon off bits that are not ready for review
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## reach out for more participation for January
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** Need a package for skin & wound: for governance, for ease of navigation, . . .
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## Skin content to go in SOLOR Sept to prepare for Oct SOLOR release
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** Need reusable data elements. We (can) do this for clusters, but what about individual elements
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# Status of SOLOR work - Jira tasks
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*** e.g., clock position, issuing organization
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## sol-21 periodicity - > remove periodicity and replace with
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** Site vs Structure
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### episode (new/recurrent),
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*** We think a structure is a kind of site. But we do have a gap wrt quantified locations, e.g., 5 cm left of center.
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#### important for PUlcer
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* Susan working on a process for requesting content
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#### option for caregiver/patient assertion as well as calculation based on site. need provenance & validation for system-asserted
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** spreadsheet for element descriptions, definition, value sets
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#### also - does 'recurrent' mean at site (recurrent wound - this ulcer) or for patient (recurrent condition - pressure ulcers)
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** should be part of DAM-to-CIMI process discussion
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### phase within episode eg healing
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* Generic vs non-generic patterns
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### trend -
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** e.g., generic device property with value set range of device concepts, vs. (unclear. model bound 'device' with something else in value? tbd)
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#### may be calculated.
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* Next week
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#### ccc, omaha have values for status, progress, but terms may differ by wound type. Consult wound literature.
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** Update on CIMI from CEM
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### All of these may need to be specialized per wound type
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** Update on SOLOR
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## sol-35 odor
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** Plans for skin & wound in January ballot
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### Need to support present & absent as well as characteristic values
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** O&O meeting on Vitals next Friday
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#### In current spreadsheet, this means calling it an 'assertion'; we'll modify that in future because CIMI will support this for properties (following tunneling pattern)
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** SOLOR Jira items, including laterality, periodicity, causative agent
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#### Complete values - keep 'foul' but also include 'fishy' e.g.
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** Use cases for validation, to include quality measures.
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# timeline for January.  
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## complete skin for October SOLOR release
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## turn to Vitals; update spreadsheet design
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## compare KNART process; possibly maxx
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# use cases for body location. These may answer the specific question of wound location and the general question of whether value set values are explicitly normative or whether they also imply inclusion of more specific descendants.
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## UI cases: succinct list for entry (ulcer, surgical incision, burn, application using cross-hairs, etc.), but SCT has lots of detail.
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# Look at archetypes; identify where we expect to see bindings
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## next time
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# SNOMED paper
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## doodle this.
  
 
===Meeting Outcomes===
 
===Meeting Outcomes===

Latest revision as of 21:17, 1 September 2017

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Meeting Information

HL7 PC-CIMI-POC Meeting Minutes

Location: Phone

Date: 2017-09-01
Time: 10:00-11:00 CT
Facilitator Jay Lyle Note taker(s) Jay Lyle
Attendee Name Affiliation


y Richard Esmond PenRad
y Holly Miller VA JP Systems
y Jay Lyle JP Systems / VA
y Liz McCool
Steve Hufnagel
y Susan Matney Intermountain
y Doug Martin
Mark Kramer
Gabriel Brat Tissue Analytics
Rob McClure

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Status of SOLOR work
  2. timeline for January.
  3. Look at archetypes; identify where we expect to see bindings
  4. SNOMED paper

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Status of CIMI: withdrawn from September ballot
    1. reach out for more participation for January
    2. Skin content to go in SOLOR Sept to prepare for Oct SOLOR release
  2. Status of SOLOR work - Jira tasks
    1. sol-21 periodicity - > remove periodicity and replace with
      1. episode (new/recurrent),
        1. important for PUlcer
        2. option for caregiver/patient assertion as well as calculation based on site. need provenance & validation for system-asserted
        3. also - does 'recurrent' mean at site (recurrent wound - this ulcer) or for patient (recurrent condition - pressure ulcers)
      2. phase within episode eg healing
      3. trend -
        1. may be calculated.
        2. ccc, omaha have values for status, progress, but terms may differ by wound type. Consult wound literature.
      4. All of these may need to be specialized per wound type
    2. sol-35 odor
      1. Need to support present & absent as well as characteristic values
        1. In current spreadsheet, this means calling it an 'assertion'; we'll modify that in future because CIMI will support this for properties (following tunneling pattern)
        2. Complete values - keep 'foul' but also include 'fishy' e.g.
  3. timeline for January.
    1. complete skin for October SOLOR release
    2. turn to Vitals; update spreadsheet design
    3. compare KNART process; possibly maxx
  4. use cases for body location. These may answer the specific question of wound location and the general question of whether value set values are explicitly normative or whether they also imply inclusion of more specific descendants.
    1. UI cases: succinct list for entry (ulcer, surgical incision, burn, application using cross-hairs, etc.), but SCT has lots of detail.
  5. Look at archetypes; identify where we expect to see bindings
    1. next time
  6. SNOMED paper
    1. doodle this.

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items

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