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*'''Update on status of SNOMED CT - FHIR collaboration''' | *'''Update on status of SNOMED CT - FHIR collaboration''' | ||
**No new information on funding for HL7 work | **No new information on funding for HL7 work | ||
| + | **The situation remains that there is no funding allocated for specific work at this time in either organisation. We therefore want to build on the opportunities of sharing and contributing that started to emerge on the call. | ||
| + | **Discussion forum on SnoChat - Linda will send next few days | ||
| + | ***Confluence (snomed.org/fhir) | ||
| + | **Face to face session in Bratislava | ||
| + | *'''Proposal for SNOMED+FHIR profiles for implementers with varying levels of proficiency''' (from Daniel) | ||
| + | **I would like to propose the need for SNOMED+FHIR profiles for implementers with varying levels of proficiency. While some (few?) will be able to manage transformations between different, isosemantic, binding alternatives, it can be assumed that at least some (most?) will not. Thus, having one profile which does not require any transformation, having one and only one way to safely use SNOMED, and other compatible profiles where safe transformations can be applied for those who are able with still a limited number of guaranteed safe ways of using SNOMED. For example with the AllergyIntolerance resource, one profile might require that only clinical findings are used for the code attribute while other profiles might allow a choice between findings and substances and products (together with transformation rules that guarantee safe interpretation of all allowed SNOMED uses). | ||
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*Future item: Review and update TermInfo PSS | *Future item: Review and update TermInfo PSS | ||
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| − | Adjourned at | + | Adjourned at 17:16 Eastern (21:16 UTC). |
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| + | Linda - TermInfo tends to be a subgroup of SNOMED Int. - so we should be aware | ||
| + | Linda shared notes from joint meeting 22nd June | ||
| + | Australia - Dion - Wants work to go ahead | ||
| + | Netherlands - Alexander Henket | ||
| + | Canada | ||
| + | UK - 1 or 2 people | ||
| + | NZ | ||
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| + | Some people have been contacting Jane | ||
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| + | timelines - list of normative resources? - check maturity levels | ||
| + | operations may have different levels of maturity | ||
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| + | CodeSystem | ||
| + | ConceptMap | ||
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| + | should SNOMED Int host FHIR SNOMED IG? - not needed since on Git and FHIR build | ||
| + | IG implementation is on GitHub | ||
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| + | prioritize - building blocks Observation | ||
| + | vs CodeSystem, ValueSet | ||
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| + | Daniel - multiple level profiles | ||
| + | Linda - e.g. Condition resource | ||
| + | force pre-coordination? | ||
| + | use expression constraints - finding site, etc. | ||
| + | Daniel - might disallow bodySite, require pre-coordinated concept added to SNOMED extension? | ||
| + | have at least one profile that does not require any further processing to interpret | ||
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| + | expression constraint - e.g. exclude severity | ||
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| + | Peter - give expressions to create on terminology server | ||
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Latest revision as of 21:26, 15 August 2017
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Contents
Meeting Information
| TermInfo Project Conference Call Web meeting (phone number are available for call-in if needed): |
Date: 2017-08-15 Time: 4:00-5:00pm ET (20:00-21:00 UTC) | ||
| Chair | Rob Hausam | Scribe | Rob Hausam |
| Attendee | Name | Affiliation
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| Rob Hausam | Hausam Consulting LLC | ||
| Linda Bird | SNOMED Int. | ||
| Peter Jordan | |||
| Daniel Karlsson | |||
Apologies: Carmela Couderc
Agenda
Agenda Topics
- Announcements
- Agenda review
- Minutes (as available)
- Review action items (send any updates in advance!)
- Update TermInfo Wiki and HL7 TermInfo project site information - some progress being made
- Update on status of SNOMED CT - FHIR collaboration
- No new information on funding for HL7 work
- The situation remains that there is no funding allocated for specific work at this time in either organisation. We therefore want to build on the opportunities of sharing and contributing that started to emerge on the call.
- Discussion forum on SnoChat - Linda will send next few days
- Confluence (snomed.org/fhir)
- Face to face session in Bratislava
- Proposal for SNOMED+FHIR profiles for implementers with varying levels of proficiency (from Daniel)
- I would like to propose the need for SNOMED+FHIR profiles for implementers with varying levels of proficiency. While some (few?) will be able to manage transformations between different, isosemantic, binding alternatives, it can be assumed that at least some (most?) will not. Thus, having one profile which does not require any transformation, having one and only one way to safely use SNOMED, and other compatible profiles where safe transformations can be applied for those who are able with still a limited number of guaranteed safe ways of using SNOMED. For example with the AllergyIntolerance resource, one profile might require that only clinical findings are used for the code attribute while other profiles might allow a choice between findings and substances and products (together with transformation rules that guarantee safe interpretation of all allowed SNOMED uses).
- Future item: Review and update TermInfo PSS
- Consider once project decisions are made
Supporting Information
Minutes
Prior Action Item Follow-up
Adjourn
Adjourned at 17:16 Eastern (21:16 UTC).
Linda - TermInfo tends to be a subgroup of SNOMED Int. - so we should be aware Linda shared notes from joint meeting 22nd June Australia - Dion - Wants work to go ahead Netherlands - Alexander Henket Canada UK - 1 or 2 people NZ
Some people have been contacting Jane
timelines - list of normative resources? - check maturity levels operations may have different levels of maturity
CodeSystem ConceptMap
should SNOMED Int host FHIR SNOMED IG? - not needed since on Git and FHIR build IG implementation is on GitHub
prioritize - building blocks Observation vs CodeSystem, ValueSet
Daniel - multiple level profiles Linda - e.g. Condition resource force pre-coordination? use expression constraints - finding site, etc. Daniel - might disallow bodySite, require pre-coordinated concept added to SNOMED extension? have at least one profile that does not require any further processing to interpret
expression constraint - e.g. exclude severity
Peter - give expressions to create on terminology server
Meeting Outcomes
| Actions
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Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
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