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=='''Agenda'''==
 
=='''Agenda'''==
 
# ''(2 min)'' '''Roll Call, Agenda Approval'''
 
# ''(2 min)'' '''Roll Call, Agenda Approval'''
# ''(2 min)'' '''Approval of [[December 20, 2016 Security Conference Call]]  
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# ''(2 min)'' '''[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=December_20,_2016_Security_Conference_Call Security WG Call Minutes December 20, 2016]'''
# ''(15 min)'' '''[gforge ballot spreadsheet - HL7 TF4FA Ballot outcome]''' - Kathleen
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# ''(15 min)'' '''[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/9511/15017/TF4FA%20v2%20IOANA.docx TF4FA Behavioral Model Elaboration]''' - Ioana Singureanu
# ''(15 min)'' '''[gforge ballot spreadsheet - HL7 PASS Audit Ballot outcome]''' - Diane
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# ''(5 min)'' '''[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/9512/15018/V3_PSAF_R1_I1_2017JAN_b_blobel_20170108105539.docx Bernd Blobel TF4FA comments] - Kathleen 
# ''(15 min)'' '''[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/9486/14987/2016DEC_PSS_SecurityLabelingSvc.doc SLSv2 PSS] - Diana
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# ''(5 min)'' '''[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/9513/15019/V3_PSAF_R1_I1_2017JAN_john_moehrke_20170109160034.xls John Moehrke's TF4FA comments]''' - Kathleen
# ''(5 min)'' '''WGM Prep'''
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# ''(10 min)'' '''[gforge ballot spreadsheet - HL7 PASS Audit Ballot outcome]''' - Diane
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# ''(10 min)'' '''[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/download/docmanfileversion/9486/14987/2016DEC_PSS_SecurityLabelingSvc.doc SLSv2 PSS] - Diana
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# ''(3 min)'' '''WGM Prep'''
 
# ''(5 min)'' '''FHIR AuditEvent and Provenance ballot comments & FHIR Security Call'''
 
# ''(5 min)'' '''FHIR AuditEvent and Provenance ballot comments & FHIR Security Call'''
  
 
=='''Minutes'''==
 
=='''Minutes'''==
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* Chaired by Alex
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* Agenda Approved (Kathleen, Ioana)
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* Security WG Call Minutes December 20, 2016-deferred to next meeting
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* TF4FA Behavioral Model Elaboration - Ioana Singureanu
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** Kathleen present Ioana who is tasked to move from conceptual model to background independent model showing services
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** Will present at connectathon
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** Ioana presented the source model:
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** The document is out for review shows high level concepts of trust framework
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** Trust contract, federated security policy negotiated between the two domains
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** Negotiation between domains results a signed agreed upon trust contract
 +
** Results in making authorization decision between the two federated domains
 +
** The Security token based on the trust contract and initiated an exchange flow between resources
 +
** All the systems will have trust marks with the capabilities
 +
** The two domains would be one initiating domain and one responding domain
 +
** The trusted policy federation services exposes
 +
** Assertions are also independently validated
 +
** Attribute and Role based access control policies
 +
** Kathleen requested for Ioana to look at different levels of assurances mechanisms within the HL7 vocabulary such as Trust Marks
 +
** Identity Management and Proofing is not covered, only asserting authorization level federation
 +
** Level of identity proofing can be asserted
 +
** A domain by definition has defined set Users, Data accessed by user, and Policy; The negotiation is about the negotiating the data in the contract. The level of assurance is Domain wise.
 +
** We use minimal identity proofing, we don't use two faze authentication, which allows each domain to apply its own policies
 +
** The operation for trust services is operation complete contract, with authorization policy, handling instructions, security label's functionality to deal with authorizations
 +
** Multiple level of assurances can occur within one domain
 +
** Between two organizations you can have hundreds of Domains depending on the two users; it is fluid and flexible 
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 +
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* Below Agenda Items will be carried forward to next Work Group call:
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 +
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*  Bernd Blobel comments - Kathleen
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* John Moehrke's TF4FA comments - Kathleen
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* gforge ballot spreadsheet - HL7 PASS Audit Ballot outcome] - Diane
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* SLSv2 PSS - Diana
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* WGM Prep
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* FHIR AuditEvent and Provenance ballot comments & FHIR Security Call2 min) Roll Call, Agenda Approval
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* Security WG Call Minutes December 20, 2016
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* TF4FA Behavioral Model Elaboration - Ioana Singureanu
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* Bernd Blobel TF4FA comments - Kathleen
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* John Moehrke's TF4FA comments - Kathleen
 +
* gforge ballot spreadsheet - HL7 PASS Audit Ballot outcome] - Diane
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* SLSv2 PSS - Diana
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* WGM Prep
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* FHIR AuditEvent and Provenance ballot comments & FHIR Security Call

Latest revision as of 20:00, 31 January 2017

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Attendees

x Member Name x Member Name x Member Name x Member Name
x John MoehrkeSecurity Co-chair x Kathleen ConnorSecurity Co-chair x Alexander Mense Security Co-chair . Trish WilliamsSecurity Co-chair
x Mike Davis x Suzanne Gonzales-Webb x David Staggs . Mohammed Jafari
x Glen Marshall, SRS x Beth Pumo x Ioana Singureanu . Rob Horn
x Diana Proud-Madruga . Serafina Versaggi . Joe Lamy . Galen Mulrooney
. Duane DeCouteau . Chris Clark . Johnathan Coleman . Aaron Seib
. Ken Salyards . Christopher D Brown TX . Gary Dickinson x Dave Silver
x Rick Grow . William Kinsley . Paul Knapp x Mayada Abdulmannan
. Kamalini Vaidya . Bill Kleinebecker . Christopher Shawn . Grahame Grieve
. Oliver Lawless . Ken Rubin . David Tao . Nathan Botts

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Agenda

  1. (2 min) Roll Call, Agenda Approval
  2. (2 min) Security WG Call Minutes December 20, 2016
  3. (15 min) TF4FA Behavioral Model Elaboration - Ioana Singureanu
  4. (5 min) Bernd Blobel TF4FA comments - Kathleen
  5. (5 min) John Moehrke's TF4FA comments - Kathleen
  6. (10 min) [gforge ballot spreadsheet - HL7 PASS Audit Ballot outcome] - Diane
  7. (10 min) SLSv2 PSS - Diana
  8. (3 min) WGM Prep
  9. (5 min) FHIR AuditEvent and Provenance ballot comments & FHIR Security Call

Minutes

  • Chaired by Alex
  • Agenda Approved (Kathleen, Ioana)
  • Security WG Call Minutes December 20, 2016-deferred to next meeting
  • TF4FA Behavioral Model Elaboration - Ioana Singureanu
    • Kathleen present Ioana who is tasked to move from conceptual model to background independent model showing services
    • Will present at connectathon
    • Ioana presented the source model:
    • The document is out for review shows high level concepts of trust framework
    • Trust contract, federated security policy negotiated between the two domains
    • Negotiation between domains results a signed agreed upon trust contract
    • Results in making authorization decision between the two federated domains
    • The Security token based on the trust contract and initiated an exchange flow between resources
    • All the systems will have trust marks with the capabilities
    • The two domains would be one initiating domain and one responding domain
    • The trusted policy federation services exposes
    • Assertions are also independently validated
    • Attribute and Role based access control policies
    • Kathleen requested for Ioana to look at different levels of assurances mechanisms within the HL7 vocabulary such as Trust Marks
    • Identity Management and Proofing is not covered, only asserting authorization level federation
    • Level of identity proofing can be asserted
    • A domain by definition has defined set Users, Data accessed by user, and Policy; The negotiation is about the negotiating the data in the contract. The level of assurance is Domain wise.
    • We use minimal identity proofing, we don't use two faze authentication, which allows each domain to apply its own policies
    • The operation for trust services is operation complete contract, with authorization policy, handling instructions, security label's functionality to deal with authorizations
    • Multiple level of assurances can occur within one domain
    • Between two organizations you can have hundreds of Domains depending on the two users; it is fluid and flexible


  • Below Agenda Items will be carried forward to next Work Group call:


  • Bernd Blobel comments - Kathleen
  • John Moehrke's TF4FA comments - Kathleen
  • gforge ballot spreadsheet - HL7 PASS Audit Ballot outcome] - Diane
  • SLSv2 PSS - Diana
  • WGM Prep
  • FHIR AuditEvent and Provenance ballot comments & FHIR Security Call2 min) Roll Call, Agenda Approval
  • Security WG Call Minutes December 20, 2016
  • TF4FA Behavioral Model Elaboration - Ioana Singureanu
  • Bernd Blobel TF4FA comments - Kathleen
  • John Moehrke's TF4FA comments - Kathleen
  • gforge ballot spreadsheet - HL7 PASS Audit Ballot outcome] - Diane
  • SLSv2 PSS - Diana
  • WGM Prep
  • FHIR AuditEvent and Provenance ballot comments & FHIR Security Call