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* approval of agenda  
 
* approval of agenda  
 
* approval of the [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=HL7_FHIR_Security_2016-6-28 June 28, 2016 minutes]
 
* approval of the [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=HL7_FHIR_Security_2016-6-28 June 28, 2016 minutes]
* How should 'test-data' be identified? Is this a legitimate use of security-tags?
 
** It is clear that security-tags already support de-identified methods. The question is specifically about completely fabricated data. 
 
** See FHIR chat thread https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/implementers/topic/Distinguishing.20test.20patients
 
* De-Identification topics
 
** mobile health workgroup  http://lists.hl7.org/read/messages?id=297060
 
** FHIR chat https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/implementers/topic/De-identification.20mechanisms.20in.20FHIR
 
 
* Update on action items
 
* Update on action items
*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9563 9563] Add onBehalfOf to Signature datatype ()  
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*3318 -- assigned to Rick to work with Mike -- following the discussion in the CP
** Proposal edited last week is in the current build
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**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3318 3318] Clarify how to use RBAC and ABAC using FHIR ()  
** http://hl7-fhir.github.io/datatypes.html#Signature
 
 
*9564 -- assigned to John -- following the discussion in the CP
 
*9564 -- assigned to John -- following the discussion in the CP
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9564 9564] Should FHIR AuditEvent resource include DICOM extension of ATNA Audit log message ? ()  
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9564 9564] Should FHIR AuditEvent resource include DICOM extension of ATNA Audit log message ? ()  
 
*7568 -- assigned to Kathleen, seems this should be satisfid by 9840? -- following the discussion in the CP
 
*7568 -- assigned to Kathleen, seems this should be satisfid by 9840? -- following the discussion in the CP
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=7568 7568] 2015May core #859 - How are agent and activity linked? ()  
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=7568 7568] 2015May core #859 - How are agent and activity linked? ()  
*3318 -- assigned to Rick to work with Mike -- following the discussion in the CP
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=3318 3318] Clarify how to use RBAC and ABAC using FHIR ()
 
 
*9042, 9043, 9052 -- assigned to Kathleen, she has the XML almost ready to go
 
*9042, 9043, 9052 -- assigned to Kathleen, she has the XML almost ready to go
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9042 9042] Add RBAC as value set for AuditEvent.participant.role ()  
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9042 9042] Add RBAC as value set for AuditEvent.participant.role ()  
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* Discussion around Record Lifecycle events (6303)? Are we going to support this? Are the vocabulary done yet?  (Gary will join)
 
* Discussion around Record Lifecycle events (6303)? Are we going to support this? Are the vocabulary done yet?  (Gary will join)
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=6303 6303] Add Record Lifecycle Events to AuditEventObjectLifecycle Set (Gary Dickinson) None
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=6303 6303] Add Record Lifecycle Events to AuditEventObjectLifecycle Set (Gary Dickinson) None
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* How should 'test-data' be identified? Is this a legitimate use of security-tags?
 +
** It is clear that security-tags already support de-identified methods. The question is specifically about completely fabricated data. 
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** See FHIR chat thread https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/implementers/topic/Distinguishing.20test.20patients
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* De-Identification topics
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** mobile health workgroup  http://lists.hl7.org/read/messages?id=297060
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** FHIR chat https://chat.fhir.org/#narrow/stream/implementers/topic/De-identification.20mechanisms.20in.20FHIR
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* Prepare for a block vote for next week --
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Prepare for a block vote for next week --
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9563 9563] Add onBehalfOf to Signature datatype ()
 
**[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/fhir/tracker/?action=TrackerItemEdit&tracker_item_id=9563 9563] Add onBehalfOf to Signature datatype ()
  
 
==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==

Revision as of 20:51, 12 July 2016

Call Logistics

Weekly: Tuesday at 05:00 EST (2 PM PST)

Conference Audio: 770-657-9270,' Access: 845692
Join online meeting: https://meet.RTC.VA.GOV/suzanne.gonzales-webb/67LLFDYV
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Attendees

Member Name Member Name Member Name
x John Moehrke Security Co-Chair . Kathleen Connor Security Co-Chair x Suzanne Gonzales-Webb CBCC Co-Chair
x Gary Dickinson EHR Co-Chair . Johnathan ColemanCBCC Co-Chair . Mike Davis
. Reed Gelzer RM-ES Lead . Glen Marshal . Galen Mulrooney
. Dave Silver x Rob Horn . Judy Fincher
x Diana Proud-Madruga . Beth Pumo x Oliver Lawless
. Bob Dieterle . Mario Hyland . Joe Lamy
. Rick Grow . [mailto: Richard Etterma] . [mailto: Wayne Kubic]

Agenda

  • Roll;
  • approval of agenda
  • approval of the June 28, 2016 minutes
  • Update on action items
  • 3318 -- assigned to Rick to work with Mike -- following the discussion in the CP
    • 3318 Clarify how to use RBAC and ABAC using FHIR ()
  • 9564 -- assigned to John -- following the discussion in the CP
    • 9564 Should FHIR AuditEvent resource include DICOM extension of ATNA Audit log message ? ()
  • 7568 -- assigned to Kathleen, seems this should be satisfid by 9840? -- following the discussion in the CP
    • 7568 2015May core #859 - How are agent and activity linked? ()
  • 9042, 9043, 9052 -- assigned to Kathleen, she has the XML almost ready to go
    • 9042 Add RBAC as value set for AuditEvent.participant.role ()
    • 9043 Add ABAC as alternative value set for AuditEvent.participant.role ()
    • 9052 Add SNOMED Stuctural Roles as value set for AuditEvent.participant.role ()
  • 9167 -- assigned to John, only creating an example AuditEvent -- following the discussion in the CP
    • 9167 AuditEvent needs to make more obvious how to record a break-glass event ()
  • 9996 -- assigned to Glen -- following the discussion in the CP
    • 9996 Using Provenance resource to annotate content derived from non-FHIR sources ()
  • FMM evaluation vs desire - We picked 4 last week -- We might want to re-evaluate to level 3. As level 4 means we would need to work hard to get "complete" testing tools and procedures at 100% of functionality. I think we should only target getting some testing ready.
  • Discussion with Mario on getting prepared for next connectathon
    • What use-case should we focus on? (Lab vs Financial vs Patient)
  • Discussion around Record Lifecycle events (6303)? Are we going to support this? Are the vocabulary done yet? (Gary will join)
    • 6303 Add Record Lifecycle Events to AuditEventObjectLifecycle Set (Gary Dickinson) None
  • How should 'test-data' be identified? Is this a legitimate use of security-tags?
  • De-Identification topics


Prepare for a block vote for next week --

    • 9563 Add onBehalfOf to Signature datatype ()

Minutes