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#Roll Call
 
#Roll Call
 
#Approval of Agenda and [[2016_ARB_Montreal_WGM | WGM Minutes]]
 
#Approval of Agenda and [[2016_ARB_Montreal_WGM | WGM Minutes]]
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#Management
 
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##Mission and Charter Review - Due in fall WGM
 
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##Decision Making Procedures review - due in fall WGM
 
 
#Governance
 
#Governance
 
#Methodology (60 minutes)
 
#Methodology (60 minutes)
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#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/arbgeneral/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2F%2Acheckout%2A%2Ftrunk%2FHL7%2520Project%2520Scope%2520Statement%2520v2015.1_CIMI_POC_d20160511.docx CIMI Proof of concept]
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#**Is this a new product? Family? Where does it fit?
 
#*SAIF super light
 
#*SAIF super light
 
#**We are asked to prepare an explanation of the ISM, and how to use it
 
#**We are asked to prepare an explanation of the ISM, and how to use it
 
#Other business and planning
 
#Other business and planning
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#*Conformance Testing for ONC
 
#Adjournment
 
#Adjournment
  
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| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator'''
 
| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Facilitator'''
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| width="35%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]/[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]   
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| width="35%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]  
 
| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)'''
 
| width="10%" colspan="1" align="right"|'''Note taker(s)'''
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| width="30%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]//[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]   
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| width="30%" colspan="1" align="left"|[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]  
 
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|colspan="2"|'''Affiliation'''  
 
|colspan="2"|'''Affiliation'''  
 
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|.||Bond,Andy           
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|X||Bond,Andy           
 
|colspan="2"|NEHTA
 
|colspan="2"|NEHTA
 
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|-  
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|.||[[User:Lconstab |Constable, Lorraine]]     
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|colspan="2"|Constable Consulting Inc.
 
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|colspan="2"| AEGIS
 
|colspan="2"| AEGIS
 
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|.||[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]       
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|X||[[User:Ajulian | Julian, Tony]]       
 
|colspan="2"|Mayo Clinic
 
|colspan="2"|Mayo Clinic
 
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|-  
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|.||Knapp, Paul
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|X||Knapp, Paul
 
|colspan="2"| Pknapp Consulting
 
|colspan="2"| Pknapp Consulting
 
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|-  
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|.||Kubick, Wayne
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|X||Kubick, Wayne
 
|colspan="2"|HL7 CTO
 
|colspan="2"|HL7 CTO
 
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|colspan="2"| ICode Solutions
 
|colspan="2"| ICode Solutions
 
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|.||[[User:Clynchmd | Lynch, Cecil]]       
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|X||[[User:Clynchmd | Lynch, Cecil]]       
 
|colspan="2"|Accenture
 
|colspan="2"|Accenture
 
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|.||Milosevic, Zoran
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|X||Milosevic, Zoran
 
|colspan="2"|Deontik Pty Ltd
 
|colspan="2"|Deontik Pty Ltd
 
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|.||Quinn, John       
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|X||[[User:Astechishin| Stechishin,Andy]]
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|colspan="2"|HL7 CTO Emeritus
 
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|.||[[User:Astechishin| Stechishin,Andy]]
 
 
|colspan="2"|CANA Software and Service Ltd.
 
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==Minutes==
 
==Minutes==
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#Approval of Agenda and [[2016_ARB_Montreal_WGM | WGM Minutes]]
 +
#*'''Motion to approve''' (Lorraine/ Paul)
 +
#*'''Vote''' 7-0-0 
 +
#Governance
 +
#Methodology (60 minutes)
 +
#*[http://gforge.hl7.org/gf/project/arbgeneral/scmsvn/?action=browse&path=%2F%2Acheckout%2A%2Ftrunk%2FHL7%2520Project%2520Scope%2520Statement%2520v2015.1_CIMI_POC_d20160511.docx CIMI Proof of concept]
 +
#**Is this a new product? Family? Where does it fit?
 +
#**Lorraine: Using existing CIMI models - trying to map to Patient Care DAM, and how they would fit in the models.  Providing direction on modeling, and relation across out standards.
 +
#**Cecil: It is new - and it lack definition.  Assume 'existing clinical requirements' : they dont say the requirements are the same. Guess they are from the V3 DAM.  New ? models:  If CIMI models they are a new product.
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#**Paul: Output is models.
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#**Wayne: Applied to any of the standards.
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#**Lorraine: Generate FHIR profiles.
 +
#**Paul: Not a different product
 +
#**Lorraine: I went to the CIMI CQI project:
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#**Cecil: How much of the EHR is ported to CIMI?
 +
#**Lorraine: modeling to QICORE.  Orthogonal to the rest of HL7 model. Suggest tht threads be gathered and coordinated.
 +
#**Cecil: It is not new if it is a singular model, different if it crosses product families.
 +
#**Paul: Not a new thing: Isnt the DAM across families?
 +
#**Lorraine: Yes - one just finished ballot.
 +
#**Paul: DAMS across families
 +
#**Wayne:  In Section 4 it appears that this would be logical models.
 +
#**Andy B:  There are fundamental different reference models from openehr.  FHIR is a different model.  The importance is the relationship to the DAMs.  It is now HL7 work.  What is the thread that brings the models under the HL7 Banner.  It comes from a different modeling universe.  FHIR is in an HL7 universe.  It is a new variety of HL7 Model.  The trick is to create legitimization, create Governance and consistency to bring it together.
 +
#**Paul: More conceptual or concrete
 +
#**Zoran: More concrete.
 +
#**Paul: Can it be rendered into a family? Is it process for model, or rendering into content? How can these artifacts be rendered into families? Can we do so algorithmically?
 +
#**Lorraine: Another project generating FHIR profiles - rule based, automatable
 +
#**Paul:  Elements mapped to FHIR models, consistency of meaning? Coming up with the models.
 +
#**Lorraine: Relating models to DAMS, another project generating concrete content.  Should we be involved for consistency? What is our position?
 +
#**Paul: CIMI model definition or statement of ownership?
 +
#**Wayne: Just a model - can be rendered in any family. 
 +
#**Cecil: I can render FHIR in multiple ways, but its still FHIR. Purpose to have decision support models.
 +
#**Wayne: I hadnt heard of decision support.
 +
#**Lorraine: They are working with CQI.  Should we be involved, or let it run on its own.
 +
#**Paul: Makes sense to observe - it might go off into its own space unnecessarily.
 +
#**Lorraine: ARB monitor for coherence.
 +
#**Wayne: Invite CIMI to a meeting.
 +
#**'''Motion''' ARB be co-sponsor of the project, with periodic reports on progress what they are doing and where they are going.
 +
#**Zoran: On this PSS only?  Need to clarify bullet point "Demonstrate relationship between information models and logically computable expressions"
 +
#**'''Motion to table'''  (Paul/Lorraine)
 +
#**'''Vote''' 7-0-0 
 +
#** Tony will invite CIMI representatives to the next call.
 +
#*SAIF super light
 +
#**We are asked to prepare an explanation of the ISM, and how to use it
 +
#**Lorraine: We have material, but not consumable by others?
 +
#**Lorraine will dig through what we have, and find the gaps!.
 +
#**Zoran: In doing so you will leverage your experience with ODL.
 +
#**Zoran will help.
 +
#Other business and planning
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##Finish Substantivity
 +
## Finish withdrawal with PIC
 +
## CIMI
 +
##* Engage with Grahame on CIMI on FHIR
 +
##* Engage Harold, Stan, or Jay on CIMI
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##* Evaluate CIMI architecture
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#Adjournment
  
  
  
 
[[Category:2016 Arb Minutes]]
 
[[Category:2016 Arb Minutes]]

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Agenda

  1. Call to order
  2. Roll Call
  3. Approval of Agenda and WGM Minutes
  4. Governance
  5. Methodology (60 minutes)
    • CIMI Proof of concept
      • Is this a new product? Family? Where does it fit?
    • SAIF super light
      • We are asked to prepare an explanation of the ISM, and how to use it
  2. Other business and planning
    • Conformance Testing for ONC
  3. Adjournment

Meeting Information

HL7 ArB Work Group Meeting Minutes

Location: Telcon

Date: 20160531
Time: 4:00pm U.S. Eastern
Facilitator Julian, Tony Note taker(s) Julian, Tony
Attendee Name Affiliation
X Bond,Andy NEHTA
X Constable, Lorraine Constable Consulting Inc.
. Dagnall, Bo HP Enterprise Services
. Hufnagel, Steve ?????
. Hyland, Mario AEGIS
X Julian, Tony Mayo Clinic
X Knapp, Paul Pknapp Consulting
X Kubick, Wayne HL7 CTO
. Loyd, Patrick ICode Solutions
X Lynch, Cecil Accenture
X Milosevic, Zoran Deontik Pty Ltd
X Stechishin,Andy CANA Software and Service Ltd.
Guests
. Nelson, Dale Accenture
. Grow, Richard U.S. Department of Veterans affairs
.
Legend
X Present
. Absent
R Regrets
Quorum Requirements (Co-chair + 3) Met: Yes

Minutes

  1. Approval of Agenda and WGM Minutes
    • Motion to approve (Lorraine/ Paul)
    • Vote 7-0-0
  2. Governance
  3. Methodology (60 minutes)
    • CIMI Proof of concept
      • Is this a new product? Family? Where does it fit?
      • Lorraine: Using existing CIMI models - trying to map to Patient Care DAM, and how they would fit in the models. Providing direction on modeling, and relation across out standards.
      • Cecil: It is new - and it lack definition. Assume 'existing clinical requirements' : they dont say the requirements are the same. Guess they are from the V3 DAM. New ? models: If CIMI models they are a new product.
      • Paul: Output is models.
      • Wayne: Applied to any of the standards.
      • Lorraine: Generate FHIR profiles.
      • Paul: Not a different product
      • Lorraine: I went to the CIMI CQI project:
      • Cecil: How much of the EHR is ported to CIMI?
      • Lorraine: modeling to QICORE. Orthogonal to the rest of HL7 model. Suggest tht threads be gathered and coordinated.
      • Cecil: It is not new if it is a singular model, different if it crosses product families.
      • Paul: Not a new thing: Isnt the DAM across families?
      • Lorraine: Yes - one just finished ballot.
      • Paul: DAMS across families
      • Wayne: In Section 4 it appears that this would be logical models.
      • Andy B: There are fundamental different reference models from openehr. FHIR is a different model. The importance is the relationship to the DAMs. It is now HL7 work. What is the thread that brings the models under the HL7 Banner. It comes from a different modeling universe. FHIR is in an HL7 universe. It is a new variety of HL7 Model. The trick is to create legitimization, create Governance and consistency to bring it together.
      • Paul: More conceptual or concrete
      • Zoran: More concrete.
      • Paul: Can it be rendered into a family? Is it process for model, or rendering into content? How can these artifacts be rendered into families? Can we do so algorithmically?
      • Lorraine: Another project generating FHIR profiles - rule based, automatable
      • Paul: Elements mapped to FHIR models, consistency of meaning? Coming up with the models.
      • Lorraine: Relating models to DAMS, another project generating concrete content. Should we be involved for consistency? What is our position?
      • Paul: CIMI model definition or statement of ownership?
      • Wayne: Just a model - can be rendered in any family.
      • Cecil: I can render FHIR in multiple ways, but its still FHIR. Purpose to have decision support models.
      • Wayne: I hadnt heard of decision support.
      • Lorraine: They are working with CQI. Should we be involved, or let it run on its own.
      • Paul: Makes sense to observe - it might go off into its own space unnecessarily.
      • Lorraine: ARB monitor for coherence.
      • Wayne: Invite CIMI to a meeting.
      • Motion ARB be co-sponsor of the project, with periodic reports on progress what they are doing and where they are going.
      • Zoran: On this PSS only? Need to clarify bullet point "Demonstrate relationship between information models and logically computable expressions"
      • Motion to table (Paul/Lorraine)
      • Vote 7-0-0
      • Tony will invite CIMI representatives to the next call.
    • SAIF super light
      • We are asked to prepare an explanation of the ISM, and how to use it
      • Lorraine: We have material, but not consumable by others?
      • Lorraine will dig through what we have, and find the gaps!.
      • Zoran: In doing so you will leverage your experience with ODL.
      • Zoran will help.
  4. Other business and planning
    1. Finish Substantivity
    2. Finish withdrawal with PIC
    3. CIMI
      • Engage with Grahame on CIMI on FHIR
      • Engage Harold, Stan, or Jay on CIMI
      • Evaluate CIMI architecture
  5. Adjournment
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