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==HL7 CBCC FHIR Consent Working Meeting==
  
 
==Attendees==
 
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||||x||[mailto:bkinsley@nextgen.com William Kinsley]
 
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||||.||[mailto:russell.mcdonell@c-cost.com Russell McDonell]
 
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||  .||[mailto:igor.sirkovich@rogers.com Igor Sirkovich]  
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[http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=HL7_FHIR_Consent_Directive_Project FHIR Consent Directive Project WiKi]
  
 
===Agenda===
 
===Agenda===
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# ''(05 minutes)'' '''Review evolving document'''
 
# ''(05 minutes)'' '''Review evolving document'''
 
# ''(05 minutes)'' '''Discuss change proposal'''
 
# ''(05 minutes)'' '''Discuss change proposal'''
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FHIR Consent WiKi
 
 
 
Review ''Abstract Data Model'' (written by David)
 
Review ''Abstract Data Model'' (written by David)
* David not on call to walk through
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* David not on call to review
 
   
 
   
'''Issue of item approved by financial management'''
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'''Item approved by Financial Management''' Issue
* Need to revisit
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* Need to revisit (clarification needed?, Example needed?)
 
** The topic is ''City of Milwaukee, consent directive''
 
** The topic is ''City of Milwaukee, consent directive''
 
** The subject is the ''patient'' or context situation ''child to be adopted'' ''third party'' interest that is being bargained over  
 
** The subject is the ''patient'' or context situation ''child to be adopted'' ''third party'' interest that is being bargained over  
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This allows you to narrow to narrow the bounds of the consent directive
 
This allows you to narrow to narrow the bounds of the consent directive
 
   
 
   
Topic is 0…many
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Topic is 0…*
 
   
 
   
'''CP - Change the name from subject to topic'''
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'''CP - Change the name from ''subject'' to ''topic'' '''
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Discussion
 
* The subject: the entity impacted by the contract of intrest to the parties to the contract
 
* The subject: the entity impacted by the contract of intrest to the parties to the contract
 
* The topic: who and/or what this contract is about.  The matter of consideration abot which an agreement is made which includes an offer or promise of future actions that is accepted
 
* The topic: who and/or what this contract is about.  The matter of consideration abot which an agreement is made which includes an offer or promise of future actions that is accepted
 
* '''Contract.subject.Defintion''':  The entity impacted by the contract or of interest to the parties to the contract.
 
* '''Contract.subject.Defintion''':  The entity impacted by the contract or of interest to the parties to the contract.
 
   
 
   
We can further clarify these, without changing the words.  Our clarifications have to fit in the wording found in contract
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We can further clarify the definition, without changing the words.  Our clarifications have to fit in the wording found in contract.   
 
Using the word ''context?''  we need a word that will be clear to everyone.
 
 
''Context'' is subject of the contract. As a cleaner way of describing
 
 
Patient identifier the other holds the list of data objects (two buckets) per John.   
 
 
   
 
   
The resource types are cues, if you want to say that this code is all ''medication resources'' the resource type ''medication'' is a value set.
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Using the word ''context?'' we need a word that will be clear to everyone. ''Context'' is subject of the contract.  
 
   
 
   
Type says this term and exclude this stuff
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Patient identifier the other holds the list of data objects (two buckets) per John.  The resource types are cues, if you want to say that this code is all ''medication resources'' the resource type ''medication'' is a value set.
 
   
 
   
'''Motion:  we’re not going to worry about the ….
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'''Motion: (Kathleen/Serafina) We (the group) will come up with definitions to be pre-applied (meaning--we can update in the future if needed). Topic is the subject of this contract with the caveat of we will revisit the names for clarification. '''
Kathleen Motion We will come up with definitions, to be pre-applied (but--we can update in the future if needed) Topic is the subject of this contract with the caveat of we will revisit the names for clarification.  
 
 
   
 
   
 
The definition of what is currently named ''topic''… the ''context of the contract'' (Serafina / Glen)
 
The definition of what is currently named ''topic''… the ''context of the contract'' (Serafina / Glen)
 
1 abstentions, no objections motion carries with 12
 
1 abstentions, no objections motion carries with 12
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Discussion: Context is going to point to a set of resource or resource types. 
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Recommend that instead of finding the perfect word not found anywhere else, we should expand on the definition and clarify (with examples) the current word.  In other words -- '' ''' Craft a Better definition. '' '''
 
   
 
   
Context is going to point to a set of resource or resource types. 
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Stating that the definitions will be ''Pre-applied'', allows us not to have to completely remove everything if we change the word
Recommend that instead of finidng the perfect word not found anywhere else, we should expand on the definition and clarify (with examples) the current word.  Craft a better definition.
 
 
Pre-applied, we will not have to completelyment remove everything if we change the word
 
  
 
Meeting adjourned at 1300 AZT
 
Meeting adjourned at 1300 AZT

Latest revision as of 23:42, 22 March 2016

HL7 CBCC FHIR Consent Working Meeting

Attendees

Member Name Member Name Member Name
x Johnathan ColemanCBCC Co-Chair x Kathleen Connor FM Co-Chair x John MoehrkeSecurity Co-Chair
x Alexander Mense Security Co-Chair . Marty Prahl x Tarik Idris
x Suzanne Gonzales-Webb CBCC Co-Chair . Diana Proud-Madruga . Pat Pyette
x M'Lynda Owens x David Staggs x Glen Marshall
. Rob Horn . Beth Pumo x William Kinsley
x Serafina Versaggi . Russell McDonell x Ken Sinn (Canada)
x Igor Sirkovich x [mailto: Andrew Rampolla (SSA)] . [mailto:

FHIR Consent Directive Project WiKi

Agenda

  1. (05 minutes) Agenda Review, Attendance, Approve Meeting Minutes
  2. (05 minutes) Review evolving document
  3. (05 minutes) Discuss change proposal

Review Abstract Data Model (written by David)

  • David not on call to review

Item approved by Financial Management Issue

  • Need to revisit (clarification needed?, Example needed?)
    • The topic is City of Milwaukee, consent directive
    • The subject is the patient or context situation child to be adopted third party interest that is being bargained over

This allows you to narrow to narrow the bounds of the consent directive

Topic is 0…*

CP - Change the name from subject to topic Discussion

  • The subject: the entity impacted by the contract of intrest to the parties to the contract
  • The topic: who and/or what this contract is about. The matter of consideration abot which an agreement is made which includes an offer or promise of future actions that is accepted
  • Contract.subject.Defintion: The entity impacted by the contract or of interest to the parties to the contract.

We can further clarify the definition, without changing the words. Our clarifications have to fit in the wording found in contract.

Using the word context? we need a word that will be clear to everyone. Context is subject of the contract.

Patient identifier the other holds the list of data objects (two buckets) per John. The resource types are cues, if you want to say that this code is all medication resources the resource type medication is a value set.

Motion: (Kathleen/Serafina) We (the group) will come up with definitions to be pre-applied (meaning--we can update in the future if needed). Topic is the subject of this contract with the caveat of we will revisit the names for clarification.

The definition of what is currently named topic… the context of the contract (Serafina / Glen) 1 abstentions, no objections motion carries with 12

Discussion: Context is going to point to a set of resource or resource types. Recommend that instead of finding the perfect word not found anywhere else, we should expand on the definition and clarify (with examples) the current word. In other words -- Craft a Better definition.

Stating that the definitions will be Pre-applied, allows us not to have to completely remove everything if we change the word

Meeting adjourned at 1300 AZT