2018-02-28 SGB Conference Call

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HL7 SGB Minutes

Location:
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Date: 2017-02-28
Time: 10:00 AM Eastern
Facilitator Paul/Calvin Note taker(s) Anne
Attendee Name


x Calvin Beebe
x Lorraine Constable
x Russ Hamm
Tony Julian
x Paul Knapp
Ewout Kramer
x Austin Kreisler
x Wayne Kubick
x Thom Kuhn
Ken McCaslin
x Rik Smithies
Sandy Stuart
Quorum: Chair + 4

Agenda

  • Agenda review
  • Approve Minutes of 2018-02-21_SGB_Conference_Call
  • Action Items
    • Paul waiting to hear back from Vocab and PA re: approval of items balloting at STU in FHIR R3
      • Will then verify with Karen that the documentation on the FHIR R3 ballot STU approvals is sufficient
    • Calvin/Austin to take the issue of bringing large projects into HL7 to the board level
    • Ask methodology groups to define how the definition of substantive change applies to their product family; management groups must then operationalize
    • ARB/SGB to decide whether the ISM material is ready and when it should go to CDA
    • TSC to review Scope of Product Management Group responsibilities
    • Anne to post documents regarding HTA/vocabulary precepts and send out to SGB list
      • Sent to list; where to post?
    • Lorraine to review project management life cycle spec and see if it talks about project and ballot scope
    • Wayne to determine what our licensing terms are with SNOMED
    • Anne to add HTA issue of WG coordination to TSC agenda
      • Complete
    • Anne to add new member for CDA Management Group to TSC agenda
      • Complete. TSC approved.
        • What are the next steps? Do they need to do a call for volunteers?
        • Does TSC approve their recommended candidate as well?
    • Anne to send edited Product Life Cycle Management document back to FMG cochairs and product manager.
      • Complete.
    • Create precept around management groups sponsoring projects and ballots
  • Discussion Topics
    • CIMI-MG candidates
    • Need to make sure that SGB is accurately reflected in the GOM, and figure out what precepts should appear in the GOM
    • Review Mission and Charter
    • Drafting Shared Product Management Responsibilities
    • Technical Alignments Between Product Families
    • How groups are to interact with publishing, EST, Vocabulary, etc.
    • Precept on bringing in large projects
    • Vocabulary - review HTA material for precepts
    • Precept for adding new tools (include that WGs with a specific mandate must be involved, such as EST, Publishing, Vocabulary, etc.) - was this covered by the tooling precept we created in New Orleans?
    • Precepts We Need to Develop
  • Parking Lot
    • BAM guidance on process for product adoption
    • Create PRECEPTS that require that it be articulated in the standards how the value sets specified within the standards respond to changes in regulation, licensing, time, etc.- to do in April/before Cologne
    • FHIR Product Director Position Description: we should 1) review further and draft feedback, then 2) map back the description to the role of FGB
    • Ownership of content

Minutes

  • Agenda review
  • Approve Minutes of 2018-02-21_SGB_Conference_Call
    • MOTION to accept: Thom/Rik
    • VOTE: All in favor
  • Action Items
    • Paul waiting to hear back from Vocab and PA re: approval of items balloting at STU in FHIR R3
      • Will then verify with Karen that the documentation on the FHIR R3 ballot STU approvals is sufficient
        • Carry forward
    • Calvin/Austin to take the issue of bringing large projects into HL7 to the board level
      • Carry forward
    • Edited item: Anne to ask methodology groups (MnM, Structured Docs) to review the substantive change definition put together by SGB and to provide additional examples of things that give rise to substantive change in their family if not otherwise covered. Management groups must then operationalize.
    • ARB/SGB to decide whether the ISM material is ready and when it should go to CDA
      • Carry forward
    • TSC to review Scope of Product Management Group responsibilities
      • Complete
        • ACTION: Anne to work on adding links on precepts page to approval minutes for each precept
    • Anne to post documents regarding HTA/vocabulary precepts and send out to SGB list
      • Sent to list; where to post?
        • ACTION: Anne to post to new section: Document under development
    • Lorraine to review project management life cycle spec and see if it talks about project and ballot scope
      • Carry forward.
      • ACTION: Add review of the spec to next week's agenda
    • Wayne to determine what our licensing terms are with SNOMED
      • SNOMED is aware and will be sending an update
    • Anne to add HTA issue of WG coordination to TSC agenda
      • Complete
    • Anne to add new member for CDA Management Group to TSC agenda
      • Complete. TSC approved.
        • What are the next steps? Do they need to do a call for volunteers?
          • ACTION: Ask CDAMG to draft call for volunteers with criteria for new position and send to SGB for distribution.
        • Does TSC approve their recommended candidate as well?
          • Yes
    • Anne to send edited Life Cycle Governance document back to FMG cochairs and product manager.
      • Complete.
    • Create precept around management groups sponsoring projects and ballots
  • Discussion Topics
    • CIMI-MG candidates
      • Lorraine notes that there is some stress and struggle going on in order to get their material where they want to be. Discussion over how that may affect the process of setting up the management group - probably doesn't need to hold up the process, but we should think carefully about having a good mix of people to help handle the issues.
      • Reviewed list. Need people with experience to help guide the processes. Thom wonders about HSPC and CIIC - not clear how they relate to each other and to HL7. Paul notes that the management group would have a role in shaping conduct in that area. Austin notes that the nominees are fairly narrowly concentrated. Want to make sure that we're not taking the CIMI WG itself and splitting it into management and methodology.
      • Discussion over intertwining between CIMI-MG and the other management groups. FMG and CDAMG should identify liaisons to this group. Discussion over the management group council idea and how this fits in.
      • If they're creating thousands of profiles, how do people write PSSs for that, or does each committee write an omnibus PSS? How do we deal with this from a balloting perspective?
        • ACTION: Add "What precepts do we need to address PSS/profile approval processes of balloting and publishing potentially thousands of CIMI models" to the parking lot.
        • ACTION: Anne to move CIMI-MG candidate list to PLA with recommendation that FMG, CDAMG, and V2MG should identify liaisons to CIMI-MG.
        • ACTION: Anne to contact people nominated by others to see if they are willing to be considered
  • Carry forward:
    • Need to make sure that SGB is accurately reflected in the GOM, and figure out what precepts should appear in the GOM
    • Review Mission and Charter
    • Drafting Shared Product Management Responsibilities
    • Technical Alignments Between Product Families
    • How groups are to interact with publishing, EST, Vocabulary, etc.
    • Precept on bringing in large projects
    • Vocabulary - review HTA material for precepts
    • Precept for adding new tools (include that WGs with a specific mandate must be involved, such as EST, Publishing, Vocabulary, etc.) - was this covered by the tooling precept we created in New Orleans?
    • Precepts We Need to Develop
  • No meeting next week due to HIMSS
  • Adjourned at 11:03 am Eastern

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