2012-04-24 RCRIM Notes

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Date: 2012-04-24
Time: 10:00-11:00 am Eastern Time
Facilitator Ed Tripp Note taker(s) Ed Tripp
Attendee Name Affiliation
x Becky Angeles ScenPro
x Michael Brennan Johnson and Johnson
x Norman Gregory FDA
x Catherine Hosage Norman Consultant
x Jay Levine FDA
x Lise Stevens FDA
x Ed Tripp Edward S. Tripp and Associates
x Steve Ward Lilly
Quorum Requirements Met: NO
quorum for RCRIM is 8 plus a co-chair


Agenda Topics

  1. Agenda review and approval
  2. Approve meeting minutes from 2012-02-14_RCRIM_Call_Minutes
  3. Status of information mapping and gap/impact analysis for clinical process
  4. Review Agenda for WGM
  5. Other Items

Supporting Documents
Clinical Information Mind Map (mmap file format)

Clinical Information Mind Map (pdf file format)


Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. Agenda review and approval
    No quorum therefore not approval of minutes. Additional item added on BRIDG harmonizaton of eStability
  2. Approve meeting minutes from 2012-02-14 RCRIM Call Minutes
    No Quorum.
  3. eStability BRIDG Harmonization
    Catherine Catherine Hosage Norman will take the lead for the eStability BRIDG harmonization effort. Norman Gregory will participate as well. Ed Tripp will send both the RCRIM process document and a link to the latest BRIDG process documents. Julie Evans will be copied on the communication.
  4. Information mapping and gap/impact analysis for clinical process
    Ed Tripp and Michael Brennan met to begin a process for identifying areas of information exchange needs across clinical development. Michael generated a first pass Mind Map of the space (see supporting documents above).
    Lise asked if we should include ISO, CDISC, EHR FP and other standards in the map. Ed said yes, the point is to identiy exchange needs and gaps. If there is a gap from an HL7 standpoint that is adequately being filled by another standard, we should recognize that.
    Lise asked if this was a global view or US centric. Ed stated that the desire is to take a global view if possilbe, however, we must recognize that many of the RCRIM active participants have more knowledge and experience in the US Realm.
    Ed, Michael and Mead will shedule another work session on the topic before the May WGM.
    Steve asked if this was consitent with the Board evaluation of v3 standards and their implementation. Ed stated that the issue was not v3 standards as much as v3 messages and the difficulting implementing. There is an active HL7 project Fast Healthcare Interoperability Resources (FHIR pronounced "Fire"). This project is targeted at the addressing the implemetnation issue. The link to the FHIR site is below:


  1. Review Agenda for WGM
    The RPS team has requested dropping the Monday Q4 RPS update. Steve and Michael expressed a desire to have an update. Ed will follow up with Mark Gray.
  2. Other Items
  • Adjourned 11:00 a.m. Eastern.

Meeting Outcomes

Action Item Owner Due Date
Schedule work session with Mead Walker and Michael Brennan on Information mapping and gap/impact analysis for clinical process Ed Tripp 4/27/2012

Next Meeting Preliminary Agenda Items

  1. Agenda review and approval
  2. Approve meeting minutes from 2012-02-14_RCRIM_Call_Minutes
  3. Other Items

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