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==Agenda==
 
==Agenda==
 
* see [[FHIR_Agenda_201705_WGM]]
 
* see [[FHIR_Agenda_201705_WGM]]
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==Mon Q3==
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===Attendees:===
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* Jean Duteau (chair)
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* Ron Shapiro (minutes)
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* Lloyd McKenzie, William Goosen, Alexander Henket, Hugh Glover, Dave Shaver
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===Discussion of V3 Balloting and Publishing===
  
  
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** new spreadsheet will transpose the tracking tab on the current spreadsheet (resources will become rows instead of columns)
 
** new spreadsheet will transpose the tracking tab on the current spreadsheet (resources will become rows instead of columns)
 
** new spreadsheet will include a new tab for each section of the FHIR Conformance QA Guidelines
 
** new spreadsheet will include a new tab for each section of the FHIR Conformance QA Guidelines
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==Thu Q1==
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===Attendees===
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* Jean Duteau (chair/minutes)
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* Ron Shapiro, William Goosen, Lynn Laakso
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===Review of M&M Projects and Core Products===
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*Data Types - Abstract Specification, R2 reaffirm
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**fill in the form
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**get project approved
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**reaffirmation ballot
 +
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*Core Principles, R1 reaffirm - close
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*Re-Ballot Core Principles R2
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**reconcile the previous negative comments
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**reballot
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*Creation of an IG for use of Negation Indicators - close
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*CMET Clean Up Work - close
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**create new CMET R4 Project
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**expires 7/5/2018 - start now
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**determine which CMETs to ballot as a group
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**by then we will have to reballot some set of CMETs - Pharmacy/CPMs
 +
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*RIM Balloting - change back to periodic ballot
 +
**expires 2021 - start next year
 +
**determine if structured vocabulary has changed
 +
**reaffirm or reballot as necessary
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*Data Types R3 - close
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*IR4H Methodology Design - close
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*1268 - FHIR Methodology and data types maintenance - close
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*Motion:
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**Approve Project 1283 (Data types R2)
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**Archive Project 1281 (Core Principles R1), 1135 (Negation IG), 887 (CMET Clean up), 750 (Data types R3)
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**Create a new Project for balloting CMET R4
 +
**Close Project 809 (IR4H Methodology), Project 1268 (FHIR Methodology)
 +
**Change RIM Balloting back to a Periodic ballot from annual
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**William/Ron : 2-0-0
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*get every workgroup to review their V3 products and determine their status
 +
*determine if any workgroup has plans of balloting a new V3 product
  
  
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===FHIR QA criteria===
 
===FHIR QA criteria===
 
* work on [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Conformance_QA_Criteria FHIR Conformance QA Guidelines] document
 
* work on [http://wiki.hl7.org/index.php?title=FHIR_Conformance_QA_Criteria FHIR Conformance QA Guidelines] document
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==Thu Q5 - Facilitator's Roundtable==
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===Harmonization Dates===
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*July 11th-12th
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*Initial Proposals: June 16th
 +
*Final Proposals: July 7th
 +
*QA of updated vocabulary: July 23rd
 +
*Publish of new vocabulary: July 30th
 +
 +
===Future of Harmonization===
 +
*Universal Terminology Governance Process project
 +
**move to a continuous vocabulary updating cycle
 +
**independent model unified across all products
 +
**mid-2018
 +
**any contentious issues could be held in-person at the Roundtable session at the next WGM or in an ad-hoc meeting
 +
 +
===Vocabulary Happenings===
 +
*Publishing of Vocabulary
 +
**we have been publishing the 2014 vocabulary and no one has noticed
 +
**Lynn is going back to the 2014 vocabulary and re-applying the changes since then
 +
*Large Harmonization Vocabulary Items
 +
**international patient summary implementation guide will have a couple of big ones
 +
**Structured Documents will have various proposals
 +
**Public Health will have a small one
 +
**Orders & Observations will have some v2
 +
*FHIR Vocabulary
 +
**FHIR Required and Extensible vocabulary should be grandfathered into the HL7 vocabulary repository
 +
 +
===V2 Happenings===
 +
*Conformance - working on a tool with NIST to elevate the conformance rules out of the specific versions and to create a standard for the creation of implementation guides
 +
 +
===V3 Happenings===
 +
*Future of V3 discussion on Monday - will be canvassing the workgroups as to the state of their v3 products - reaffirm, withdraw, reballot, any new?
 +
*M&M V3 Products - RIM is moving to periodic balloting, Datatypes R2 will be reaffirmed, Core Principles R2 will be re-reconciled and reballoted. CMETs will be reballoted.
 +
*Identifiers - FHIR identifiers have an URI but we can't send that in V3 and thus CDA can't handle it.  May need a Datatypes R1/R2 errata to allow for URIs to be sent in V3/CDA - and may need to raise this in ISO21090.
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===CDA Happenings===
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*TSC has approved the CDA Management Group - operational by September WGM.  Will identify the lead methodology group for CDA.
 +
*CDA R2.1 went through Draft for Comment ballot.  Normative ballot in September balloting cycle
 +
 +
===FHIR Happenings===
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*M&M turned quality criteria into a readable format
 +
*FHIR Strategic Priorities will be published shortly
 +
**focus is on maturity, quality, usability, and stabilization
 +
*FHIR scheduling may lead to changes in the room reservation system
 +
*FHIR's ballot will be mixed and some will be normative. FHIR R4 will have a core of normative content
 +
 +
===Future of Roundtable===
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*will schedule this for September WGM
 +
*add CIMI and communicate that they need to be here
 +
*publish the agenda beforehand so people know what we're discussing

Revision as of 17:23, 18 May 2017


MnM 2017 May Madrid WGM Minutes

Return to MnM Minutes

Agenda

Mon Q3

Attendees:

  • Jean Duteau (chair)
  • Ron Shapiro (minutes)
  • Lloyd McKenzie, William Goosen, Alexander Henket, Hugh Glover, Dave Shaver

Discussion of V3 Balloting and Publishing

Wed Q3

Attendees:

  • Lloyd McKenzie (chair)
  • Ron Shapiro (minutes)

FHIR QA criteria

  • work on FHIR Conformance QA Guidelines document
  • make plans for creating a new QA tracking spreadsheet for other WGs to use
    • this will expand on the current FHIR FMM/QA Tracking Spreadsheet
    • new spreadsheet will transpose the tracking tab on the current spreadsheet (resources will become rows instead of columns)
    • new spreadsheet will include a new tab for each section of the FHIR Conformance QA Guidelines

Thu Q1

Attendees

  • Jean Duteau (chair/minutes)
  • Ron Shapiro, William Goosen, Lynn Laakso

Review of M&M Projects and Core Products

  • Data Types - Abstract Specification, R2 reaffirm
    • fill in the form
    • get project approved
    • reaffirmation ballot
  • Core Principles, R1 reaffirm - close
  • Re-Ballot Core Principles R2
    • reconcile the previous negative comments
    • reballot
  • Creation of an IG for use of Negation Indicators - close
  • CMET Clean Up Work - close
    • create new CMET R4 Project
    • expires 7/5/2018 - start now
    • determine which CMETs to ballot as a group
    • by then we will have to reballot some set of CMETs - Pharmacy/CPMs
  • RIM Balloting - change back to periodic ballot
    • expires 2021 - start next year
    • determine if structured vocabulary has changed
    • reaffirm or reballot as necessary
  • Data Types R3 - close
  • IR4H Methodology Design - close
  • 1268 - FHIR Methodology and data types maintenance - close
  • Motion:
    • Approve Project 1283 (Data types R2)
    • Archive Project 1281 (Core Principles R1), 1135 (Negation IG), 887 (CMET Clean up), 750 (Data types R3)
    • Create a new Project for balloting CMET R4
    • Close Project 809 (IR4H Methodology), Project 1268 (FHIR Methodology)
    • Change RIM Balloting back to a Periodic ballot from annual
    • William/Ron : 2-0-0
  • get every workgroup to review their V3 products and determine their status
  • determine if any workgroup has plans of balloting a new V3 product


Thu Q2

Attendees:

  • Lloyd McKenzie (chair)
  • Ron Shapiro (minutes)
  • William Jones

FHIR Methodology and Data Types Maintenance project (#1268)

  • Motion to extend this project for 2 more years
  • Ron Shapiro/William Jones: 2-0-0

FHIR QA criteria

Thu Q5 - Facilitator's Roundtable

Harmonization Dates

  • July 11th-12th
  • Initial Proposals: June 16th
  • Final Proposals: July 7th
  • QA of updated vocabulary: July 23rd
  • Publish of new vocabulary: July 30th

Future of Harmonization

  • Universal Terminology Governance Process project
    • move to a continuous vocabulary updating cycle
    • independent model unified across all products
    • mid-2018
    • any contentious issues could be held in-person at the Roundtable session at the next WGM or in an ad-hoc meeting

Vocabulary Happenings

  • Publishing of Vocabulary
    • we have been publishing the 2014 vocabulary and no one has noticed
    • Lynn is going back to the 2014 vocabulary and re-applying the changes since then
  • Large Harmonization Vocabulary Items
    • international patient summary implementation guide will have a couple of big ones
    • Structured Documents will have various proposals
    • Public Health will have a small one
    • Orders & Observations will have some v2
  • FHIR Vocabulary
    • FHIR Required and Extensible vocabulary should be grandfathered into the HL7 vocabulary repository

V2 Happenings

  • Conformance - working on a tool with NIST to elevate the conformance rules out of the specific versions and to create a standard for the creation of implementation guides

V3 Happenings

  • Future of V3 discussion on Monday - will be canvassing the workgroups as to the state of their v3 products - reaffirm, withdraw, reballot, any new?
  • M&M V3 Products - RIM is moving to periodic balloting, Datatypes R2 will be reaffirmed, Core Principles R2 will be re-reconciled and reballoted. CMETs will be reballoted.
  • Identifiers - FHIR identifiers have an URI but we can't send that in V3 and thus CDA can't handle it. May need a Datatypes R1/R2 errata to allow for URIs to be sent in V3/CDA - and may need to raise this in ISO21090.

CDA Happenings

  • TSC has approved the CDA Management Group - operational by September WGM. Will identify the lead methodology group for CDA.
  • CDA R2.1 went through Draft for Comment ballot. Normative ballot in September balloting cycle

FHIR Happenings

  • M&M turned quality criteria into a readable format
  • FHIR Strategic Priorities will be published shortly
    • focus is on maturity, quality, usability, and stabilization
  • FHIR scheduling may lead to changes in the room reservation system
  • FHIR's ballot will be mixed and some will be normative. FHIR R4 will have a core of normative content

Future of Roundtable

  • will schedule this for September WGM
  • add CIMI and communicate that they need to be here
  • publish the agenda beforehand so people know what we're discussing
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