MnM Minutes WGM 201301 Phoenix
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Sunday Jan 13 Q3
Attendees
Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
Agenda
Establish Agenda for WGM from Hot Topics and FHIR Methodology Needs
Steps:
- Selected "Identifiers related to Social Media" and "Uncertainties around Procedure" for discussion in session on Q2 Thursday.
- Discussed Need for M&M Co-chairs to address the question of MnMs directions with regards to "new" Methodology Responsibilities. Will address at Lunch on Wednesday
- Verified Needs of FHIR for Methodology Sessions and Ballot Reconciliation Sessions and assigned these through the schedule.
Final Agenda was posted on Gforge and circulated by e-mail Sunday evening
Monday 1/14 Q1
Attendees
- Andy Bond (andy.bind@nehta.gov.au)
- Nat Wong (nwong@totalcare.net.au)
- Woody Beeler (woody@beeler.com)
- Rik Smithies (rik@nprogram.co.uk)
- Alexander Henket (alexanderhenket@enovation.nl)
- Ewout Kramer (ekramer@furure.com)
- Grahame Grieve (grahame@healthintersections.com.au)
- Dave Shaver (dave.shaver@corepointhealth.com)
- Yukinori Konishi (koni@kis-ihc.jp)
- Sakamu Takasaka (s.takasaka@gmail.com)
- Andrew Liu (aliu@infoway.ca)
- John Moehrkhe (john.moehrke@ge.com)
- Paolo Russian (paolo.russian@hosgroup.com)
- Saul Kravitz (skravtiz@mitre.com)
- Alex Zupan (alex.zupan@tbsgroup.com)
FHIR - Define Principles and Methodology Implications of:
Must Understand
After a discussion of the way mustUnderstand works, the following recommendations were made:
1. “mustUnderstand” should only be declared on an element whose meaning would reasonably affect the meanings of parent or peer elements. 2. It does *not* indicate any expectation that mustSupport is true for the element, nor should it be used a general purpose importance flag
The name "mustUnderstand" was discussed, and the subject was tabled on the basis that the name, definition and implications of mustUnderstand will be revisited subsequently (along with mustSupport).
Adopted: Grahame/Rik 15-0-0
Interversion Compatibility
- Let people know that we are trialing inter-version compatibility during the DSTU process
- No guarantee of consistency between DSTU versions while we work this out
- expectation of breaking changes between DSTU and Normative edition
- we will clarify the methodology implications through the DSTU process
- FHIR project team will draft working guidelines to test through that process
Adopted Grahame/Ewout 15-0-0
Default Values
- Default values are to not supported by the FHIR methodology
- if an element is labeled mustUnderstand, and the value is not explicit in the instance, or known by the context, the resource cannot be understood
- implementation guidance may need to discuss appropriate behavior in the context of absent values
Adopted: Grahame / Zoran 15-0-0
Element Naming Policies
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 with no time to consider element naming policies
Monday 1/14 Q2
Attendees
- Andy Bond (andy.bind@nehta.gov.au)
- Woody Beeler (woody@beeler.com)
- Zoran Milosevic (zoran@deontik.com)
- Rik Smithies (rik@nprogram.co.uk)
- Alexander Henket (alexanderhenket@enovation.nl)
- Grahame Grieve (grahame@healthintersections.com.au)
- Dave Shaver (dave.shaver@corepointhealth.com)
- Yukinori Konishi (koni@kis-ihc.jp)
- Sakamu Takasaka (s.takasaka@gmail.com)
- Andrew Liu (aliu@infoway.ca)
- John Moehrkhe (john.moehrke@ge.com)
- Paolo Russian (paolo.russian@hosgroup.com)
- Saul Kravitz (skravtiz@mitre.com)
- Alex Zupan (alex.zupan@tbsgroup.com)
Motion: 1. That a number of resources that are part of FHIR and owned by HL7 be identified as subject to shared management by IHE and HL7 2. These resources must enable the implementation of designated IHE profiles 3. Ballot disposition actions are not able to take actions inconsistent with this agreement 4. HL7 will publish a FHIR profile along with the resource that describes their use to implement IHE profiles 5. The resources will be balloted by HL7 using the standard process, though IHE menbers have the right to vote on these resources
This motion was referred to the FHIR management group for consideration.
In addition, a number of FHIR ballot comments were resolved: 661-664, and 670
Tuesday 1/15 Q1
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
FHIR Ballot Issues
Tuesday 1/14 Q4
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
SAIF Artifact Definition Project
Wednesday 1/16 Q1
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
Host Joint with Vocabulary
Wednesday 1/16 Q2
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
Host Joint with FHIR and Vocabulary
Wednesday 1/16 Q3
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
FHIR Methodology
Default Values
Comments
Thursday 1/17 Q1
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
FHIR Ballot Reconciliation
Thursday 1/17 Q2
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
V3 Hot Topics
Uncertainties around Procedure
Thursday 1/17 Q5
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
Facilitators Round Table
Harmonization Dates for 2013
Publishing Schedule for May 2013
Round the Table
MnM Highlights
Friday 1/18 Q2
Attendees
Tentative List - Use or Delete: Woody Beeler, Doug Fridsma, Hugh Glover, Grahame Grieve, David Hay, Alexander Henket, Austin Kreisler, Virginia Lorenzi, Lloyd McKenzie, Zoran Milosevic, Brian Pech, Vin Sekar, Mead Walker
