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'''Agenda Topics''' <br/>
 
'''Agenda Topics''' <br/>
# objectives
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# Most attendees for orientation, no agenda items
## support translation ccda fhir
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# confirm problem statement
### not too different from any translation
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## transforms across: is this any different from any other transform
### require explicit direction from WG?
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## transforms within: this is really a condition/observation argument. others? allergy?
## support translation within FHIR (observation/condition)
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## DL: partition
### boundary explanation needs to include transform guidance
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# examples
### know when questions should imply concerns
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## George: MU requirement patient has no problems. Implementers may use 'problem' and negation, but text is 'problem' -- a structure vs text issue
#### pregnant yes
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## Emma: STU comment - easy to represent pregnancy, but unclear how to represent 'not pregnant'
#### # ulcers > 0
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### pregnant code with negation
### other changes?
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### not pregnant code
## detect negation for rules
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### pregnancy question with 'no'
### refuted or resolved conditions - may be condition- or rule-specific
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# Should ballot deliver a) guidance & best practices, c) normative policy pronouncements, or something in between, like b) recommended patterns?
## know when refuted conditions need to be captured to support rules eg no bleeding disorders
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## Answer unclear. Produce a, maybe b, see how far we can get.
## impede creation of new problems
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# Need more 'consumption' cases to cross-reference 'capture' cases
### minimize abstraction in new specifications
 
### require WGs to provide xform guidance
 
# review outline. ideas for improvement
 
# how to associate capture cases with consumption cases
 
 
 
  
 
===Minutes===
 
===Minutes===

Revision as of 20:53, 1 November 2017

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Minutes

Meeting Information

HL7 PC-CIMI-POC Meeting Minutes

Location: PC call line

Date: 2017-11-01
Time: 11:00-12:00 ET
Facilitator Jay Lyle Note taker(s) Jay Lyle
Attendee Name Affiliation


y Jay Lyle JP Systems
y Emma Jones
y Rob Hausam
y Angela Crovetti
y George Dixon
Richard Esmond
Andrew Haslam
Floyd Eisenberg
Susan Barber

Agenda

Agenda Topics

  1. Most attendees for orientation, no agenda items
  2. confirm problem statement
    1. transforms across: is this any different from any other transform
    2. transforms within: this is really a condition/observation argument. others? allergy?
    3. DL: partition
  3. examples
    1. George: MU requirement patient has no problems. Implementers may use 'problem' and negation, but text is 'problem' -- a structure vs text issue
    2. Emma: STU comment - easy to represent pregnancy, but unclear how to represent 'not pregnant'
      1. pregnant code with negation
      2. not pregnant code
      3. pregnancy question with 'no'
  4. Should ballot deliver a) guidance & best practices, c) normative policy pronouncements, or something in between, like b) recommended patterns?
    1. Answer unclear. Produce a, maybe b, see how far we can get.
  5. Need more 'consumption' cases to cross-reference 'capture' cases

Minutes

Minutes/Conclusions Reached:

  1. no quorum

Meeting Outcomes

Actions
  • review Use Cases for completeness, classification for accuracy (all)


Next Meeting/Preliminary Agenda Items
  • Continue review of requirements

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